Daylight savings time.

[Blackstar the Chakat]

Don't forget to set your clocks one hour forward or you'll be late for every thing

[kostmayer]

But not in the UK - incase anyone panics like I just did

I'm usually awake for it to be honest.

[RK_Striker_JK_5]

*Sigh* I hate daylight saving's time. Seriously, no real point to it except to mess with people.

[Aaron]

*Sigh* I hate daylight saving's time. Seriously, no real point to it except to mess with people.

The farmers man! Think of the farmers!

[Mikey]

Except Arizona, I think.

[RK_Striker_JK_5]

*Sigh* I hate daylight saving's time. Seriously, no real point to it except to mess with people.

The farmers man! Think of the farmers!

lol, sure. It's out of date, obsolete, IMHO.

[Teaos]

It has a lrage effect on tourisum dollars spent aswell in entertainment areas. It also makes people feel better seeing more sun.

[Blackstar the Chakat]

*Sigh* I hate daylight saving's time. Seriously, no real point to it except to mess with people.

The farmers man! Think of the farmers!

lol, sure. It's out of date, obsolete, IMHO.

Well I think it's great. Helps save on energy, more light during the day(which actually has known medical and psychological benefits)

[Sionnach Glic]

Helps save on energy

Wrong!

Research on the impact of extending daylight-saving time across Indiana found:
• Residential electricity usage increased between 1% and 4%, amounting to $8.6 million a year.
• Social costs from increased emissions were estimated at between $1.6 million and $5.3 million per year.
• Possible social benefits -- enhanced public health and safety and economic growth -- were not studied.Indiana's change of heart gave University of California-Santa Barbara economics professor Matthew Kotchen and Ph.D. student Laura Grant a unique way to see how the time shift affects energy use. Using more than seven million monthly meter readings from Duke Energy Corp., covering nearly all the households in southern Indiana for three years, they were able to compare energy consumption before and after counties began observing daylight-saving time. Readings from counties that had already adopted daylight-saving time provided a control group that helped them to adjust for changes in weather from one year to the next.

Their finding: Having the entire state switch to daylight-saving time each year, rather than stay on standard time, costs Indiana households an additional $8.6 million in electricity bills. They conclude that the reduced cost of lighting in afternoons during daylight-saving time is more than offset by the higher air-conditioning costs on hot afternoons and increased heating costs on cool mornings.

Weird, I know.

more light during the day(which actually has known medical and psychological benefits)

What's stopping you from....oh, I don't know, getting up earlier?

Really, Daylight Savings is an obsolete system that just causes hassle for everyone with no gain.

[sunnyside]

What's stopping you from....oh, I don't know, getting up earlier?

I thought you'd already started college at least......

Seriously though, while a great idea back when it started it is getting to be outdated.

[Sionnach Glic]

I thought you'd already started college at least......

Actualy, I'm long past college. Why?

[Blackstar the Chakat]

Helps save on energy

Research on the impact of extending daylight-saving time across Indiana found:
• Residential electricity usage increased between 1% and 4%, amounting to $8.6 million a year.
• Social costs from increased emissions were estimated at between $1.6 million and $5.3 million per year.
• Possible social benefits -- enhanced public health and safety and economic growth -- were not studied.Indiana's change of heart gave University of California-Santa Barbara economics professor Matthew Kotchen and Ph.D. student Laura Grant a unique way to see how the time shift affects energy use. Using more than seven million monthly meter readings from Duke Energy Corp., covering nearly all the households in southern Indiana for three years, they were able to compare energy consumption before and after counties began observing daylight-saving time. Readings from counties that had already adopted daylight-saving time provided a control group that helped them to adjust for changes in weather from one year to the next.

Their finding: Having the entire state switch to daylight-saving time each year, rather than stay on standard time, costs Indiana households an additional $8.6 million in electricity bills. They conclude that the reduced cost of lighting in afternoons during daylight-saving time is more than offset by the higher air-conditioning costs on hot afternoons and increased heating costs on cool mornings.

Weird, I know.

That's only one state. One study

more light during the day(which actually has known medical and psychological benefits)

What's stopping you from....oh, I don't know, getting up earlier?

Because I'm in college? Well, not really college. I go to ITT Tech, but same basic thing really. Still gotta work hard, and work late on big projects. And I do get up pretty early. I have to be up by 6 AM just to be to school on time.

[Sionnach Glic]

That's only one state. One study

So? Can you think of any reason to suggest that these tests are invalid in other regions? It's a sample, just like a company picking a thousand people to give a questionaire to is.

Anyway, you're the on making the claim, so what evidence do you have that DS saves energy?

And if you're up at six, anyway, then what's the problem? You get the full day of sunshine.

[Blackstar the Chakat]

That's only one state. One study

So? Can you think of any reason to suggest that these tests are invalid in other regions? It's a sample, just like a company picking a thousand people to give a questionaire to is.

Well, one test isn't enough to prove anything. Just like those questionaires aren't always accurate and can be scewed. Although you can claim you picked a thousand people at random, you can still influence who you picked. Like picking them up at a up-scale mall for example. You won't get an accurate picture.

In science you have to reproduce results multiple times before something is considered a proven fact. Why should a study be any different? It's one study in one state in a country of 50 in a world of hundreds of countries. It hardly proves anything

And if you're up at six, anyway, then what's the problem? You get the full day of sunshine.

What about the days off when I get to sleep in? And Some of my older friends also have a problem with getting up in the morning becuase of two little words: hang over. Or is that one word?

[Sionnach Glic]

Fine, but have you any evidence to show that DS does save energy? You are the one making the claims, thus you must prevent the evidence, not I.

What about the days off when I get to sleep in?

It's not my fault if you decide to sleep in some days. Why should we be forced to go through the hassle of changing every clock in our houses just because you want an extra hour of sunshine? You want to be able to have a whole day of sunshine? Then get up earlier. If you decide to lie in, fine, but I don't see why the rest of the planet needs to accomodate it.

And Some of my older friends also have a problem with getting up in the morning becuase of two little words: hang over. Or is that one word?

So what? If they're foolish enough to get so drunk that they can't get up the next morning, then that's their own fault. If they don't want to miss an hour of sunshine, then they can look after it themselves.