Janeway herself came back and got them home. Somehow that doesn't count? THIS is why I suspect there's some heavy bias at play.. it seems like everything she does right, you take away the credit for... and everything that she did "wrong" gets amplified.Captain Seafort wrote:They got home despite Janeway's leadership, not because of it - she nearly got the entire crew killed through her own stupidity or arrogance several times.Duskofdead wrote:I think his point is that people are getting too carried away acting like Janeway "sacrificed" her crew based on "every small detail of Starfleet policy." Which is hardly the case... her crew was alive, her crew did get home, albeit not as "quickly or smartly" as the "Battle Barge Captains" would approve of, but nonetheless.
In ALL of the shows, all of the captains have made decisions which nearly killed the crew or destroyed the ship. The only difference I can really see in this discussion is that in Janeway's case, each and every single one of those situations was directly her personal fault, she should have been MORE Marysue and "known" beforehand what was going to happen, and "smartly" avoided it or made a different decision than she did.
Rochey at least has been consistent and pretty much slammed all the captains. But I think if everyone else here put all the other captains through the same cheese grater they put Janeway they'd all have a less than pleasant descriptive adjective before their names too.