Vulcan isolationism is somewhat of a gambit

Bryan Moore · Post by **Bryan Moore** » Sat Aug 16, 2008 4:23 am

Teaos wrote:The Federation doesnt really need them. They offer a bit of industry and population but nothing over whelming. The Vulcans need the Federation more than the Federation needs them.

I agree, but something tells me the Vulcans must do a LOT of scientific research. Clearly they're not contributing much militarily, but I believe it would be very logical for Vulcan in the 24th century to be a home to countless research institutions looking to further science. If that were the case, then it could hurt somewhat.

Post by **Mikey** » Sat Aug 16, 2008 5:08 am

Bryan Moore wrote:it would be very logical for Vulcan

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Sat Aug 16, 2008 9:44 am

Well, it's unlikely the entire Vulcan race would defect, so the UFP would still have plenty of Vulcan scientists around, even if they weren't on Vulcan itself.

Post by **Teaos** » Sat Aug 16, 2008 10:22 am

True what are the chances of a logical race leaving a super power for one half as powerful.

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Sat Aug 16, 2008 10:47 am

Exactly, that would be illogical.

Deepcrush · Post by **Deepcrush** » Sat Aug 16, 2008 6:11 pm

Where its nice to see that Teaos has come over to the light of the God-Emperor... I don't think the UFP would allow the RSE to lay a claim on Vulcan. If Vulcan and Romulus want to have relations they can have them even with being part of the UFP. I wouldn't risk letting the RSE have a foot hold inside of UFP space. That is unless the Romulans would allow the UFP control over say, Remus...

The Vulcan shipyards aren't really a loss. The loss for the UFP is position. It would give the same advantage to the RSE in a war the the allies had when Hitler failed to break England in the Battle of Britain.

Post by **Teaos** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 1:14 am

I don't think the UFP would allow the RSE to lay a claim on Vulcan.

I dont think the UFP could stop Vulcan if they really wanted to.

Post by **Mikey** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 3:34 am

No, but they could stop the Rommies from basing forces in their space.

Deepcrush · Post by **Deepcrush** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 5:39 am

You may leave the UFP but you wont be joining anyone else. Not if it means handing over your heart to someone more then happy to eat it. The RSE would jump for any reason to station warships inside the UFP core. War would be better then letting that happen, even if the Vulcans wouldn't be happy about it. Tough sh!t for them but so be it.

Post by **Teaos** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 11:51 am

I cant remember who said it first but it is rather like the cuban missile crisis. While the Russians were allowed to place missile there under international law there was no way in hell the americans were gonna let them.

Reliant121 · Post by **Reliant121** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 12:25 pm

I think with the Vulcans, the thing the federation stands to loose most is either high level diplomats (ala Sarek, Spock) or high level scientists. The Vulcans would loose TONNES more than the Federation though.

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Sun Aug 17, 2008 1:25 pm

I cant remember who said it first

Deepcrush · Post by **Deepcrush** » Mon Aug 18, 2008 4:19 pm

Rochey wrote:
I cant remember who said it first

Post by **Mikey** » Mon Aug 18, 2008 4:20 pm

Really, Rochey, you should know better than to raise your hand around Deep by now.

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Mon Aug 18, 2008 4:28 pm

Maybe one day I'll remember....

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