Our Ship - Beam Configuration
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You miss my point. The XII phasers are more than capable of dealing with most capital ships. But having the Ability to deal with fighters with low power output would make it capable of dealing with fighters if it needs it.
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True, phaser beams can pretty much hit anything they need to were as the canons have trouble aiming at small or fast things and the lance is almost useless against anything smaller than a Lakota.
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They have alot more Flexiblity than the pulse cannons.
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I voted anti-fleet. I truth, the whole cry baby thing about the lance fails to make sense but . It's a battleship. Its point is to cut apart whatever is stupid enough to get in its way. If not by lance then by a whole lot of something else. All-rounder just seems to be built like a cruiser with a big gun on the nose. Balanced isn't even a battleship. Slash and burn doesn't have enough forward power to cut through an enemy battle line.
If we are still sticking with the battleship idea then the only choice you really have left us is the anti-fleet.
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You shouldn't be aiming the lance at anything smaller then a Lakota anyways. The lance is for taking out battleships, stations, planets, shipyards (remember there was one that a small klingon fleet couldn't take out because of whatever reason) and even those BS ODPs the cardis built.Teaos wrote:True, phaser beams can pretty much hit anything they need to were as the canons have trouble aiming at small or fast things and the lance is almost useless against anything smaller than a Lakota.
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The point is or was, that the lance was impractical for anything but that. Taking up such an internal volume and power output on one frankly too specialised weapon at the expense of other weapons is quite detrimental in my view.Deepcrush wrote:You shouldn't be aiming the lance at anything smaller then a Lakota anyways. The lance is for taking out battleships, stations, planets, shipyards (remember there was one that a small klingon fleet couldn't take out because of whatever reason) and even those BS ODPs the cardis built.Teaos wrote:True, phaser beams can pretty much hit anything they need to were as the canons have trouble aiming at small or fast things and the lance is almost useless against anything smaller than a Lakota.
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This is a BATTLESHIP! She isn't going around picking up flowers for the local shop. The whole point is to have a ship that causes more worry the chakat saying he had a thought. If it doesn't scare the shit out of you then you shouldn't be building one in the first place. If you want more jack of all trade ships then you need to focus on Sovs.
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What good is a battleship if your main weapon can't hit a damn thing?Deepcrush wrote:This is a BATTLESHIP! She isn't going around picking up flowers for the local shop. The whole point is to have a ship that causes more worry the chakat saying he had a thought. If it doesn't scare the **** out of you then you shouldn't be building one in the first place. If you want more jack of all trade ships then you need to focus on Sovs.
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I know damned well that its a battleship, but making a battleship with an overpowered weapon like that is pointless! Your making a UFP moving planet killer! Obviously you'd love that due to your....'views' about starfleets nature. Hard truth - No need for it. the type XII's are plenty powerful enough.
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No need huh? I take it then you've never seen any of the following items.
Starbases
Planet based fortresses
ODPs
Borg
Dominion Battleships
Kazon
Voth
Negh'var
Scimitar
Shipyards
Anything the size of a GCS or more!
Still want to say you can't think of a need for it?
PS, my views on SF have nothing to do with this. We're only building 14 of them. IF I were in control there would be several hundred and they would be a lot bigger then this.
Starbases
Planet based fortresses
ODPs
Borg
Dominion Battleships
Kazon
Voth
Negh'var
Scimitar
Shipyards
Anything the size of a GCS or more!
Still want to say you can't think of a need for it?
PS, my views on SF have nothing to do with this. We're only building 14 of them. IF I were in control there would be several hundred and they would be a lot bigger then this.
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Again, not that you could remember anyways, the lance isn't meant for hitting small fast moving targets. The is unless you've seen some Fast Attack class starbases or dogfighting planets.Blackstar the Chakat wrote:What good is a battleship if your main weapon can't hit a damn thing?Deepcrush wrote:This is a BATTLESHIP! She isn't going around picking up flowers for the local shop. The whole point is to have a ship that causes more worry the chakat saying he had a thought. If it doesn't scare the **** out of you then you shouldn't be building one in the first place. If you want more jack of all trade ships then you need to focus on Sovs.
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I'm going w/ balance.
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Balance. The lance didn't appear until Picard was senile so I suspect it's future tech.
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Problem with the lance thingy. What happens if you are attacked by, say, 50 defiants. You cant hit a single one. Which means, big bad battleship dies.
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