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Re: Jem’hadar warships are made of unobtanium 3000

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 5:48 am
by 00111010 01000100
It's the 100th episode but I don't think it was called frozen.

The ships bottom didn't flatten out though in the scene where it was sledding across the surface of the planet. No doubt that most likely the bottom probably suffered severe structural failure and over time the ship's weight caused the bottom to fail as well.
Totally apologize, you’re correct and I’m sooo wrong :(
The episode I was referring to is called “Timeless”.
As to where I came up with frozen, can only speculate? Still wrong though.

The flattened deck info I remember from the conversation Chakotay and harry were having when they were onboard.

KIM: Power grid's been destroyed. Neural gel packs frozen solid. Decks nine through fourteen are now deck ten. They've been compacted.
CHAKOTAY: Looks like they hit the ice at full impulse.

I could’ve bought that the ice had damaged the decks during its long time there (glacial drift and shearing) but the comment Chakotay had about the ships speed leads me to believe the ship slammed into the ice and crushed those decks.

I’m always open to different interpretations or ideas though. :)

Re: Jem’hadar warships are made of unobtanium 3000

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 8:53 pm
by McAvoy
Visuals are different. We are talking about smashing pretty much most of the engineering hull.

Would have been cool if we saw Voyager literally smash itself, pieces breaking off the ship, etc. But the lower part of the ship appears more or less intact.

I am willing to bet the hull collapsed on itself over the 20 years once SIF went offline and the ship started to settle.

Re: Jem’hadar warships are made of unobtanium 3000

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 9:00 pm
by Captain Seafort
McAvoy wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 8:53 pmWould have been cool if we saw Voyager literally smash itself, pieces breaking off the ship, etc.
We did, to a certain degree - one of the nacelles got stripped.

Re: Jem’hadar warships are made of unobtanium 3000

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2020 12:35 am
by McAvoy
Captain Seafort wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 9:00 pm
McAvoy wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 8:53 pmWould have been cool if we saw Voyager literally smash itself, pieces breaking off the ship, etc.
We did, to a certain degree - one of the nacelles got stripped.
Don't get me wrong. Cool scene and the nacelle getting smashed was cool.

I am just saying Voyager hit that planet hard with who knows how fast and she basically sled across the planet. Maybe the deflector dish itself suffers damage too since it's literally acting like a plow.

Re: Jem’hadar warships are made of unobtanium 3000

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2020 2:45 am
by Coalition
00111010 01000100 wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 5:30 am So is it just me or does anyone visualize a rock skipping on the water, when the saucer section is crashing down? ^-^
Even worse is if it hits hard rock on one side, so it spins while it is crashing

Re: Jem’hadar warships are made of unobtanium 3000

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2020 5:24 am
by McAvoy
Coalition wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 2:45 am
00111010 01000100 wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 5:30 am So is it just me or does anyone visualize a rock skipping on the water, when the saucer section is crashing down? ^-^
Even worse is if it hits hard rock on one side, so it spins while it is crashing
Due to the mass of the saucer I cannot see it. I can see the saucer skipping for a two before settling.

Re: Jem’hadar warships are made of unobtanium 3000

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 6:33 am
by 00111010 01000100
Graham Kennedy wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2019 12:14 pm Trek ships have varied significantly in how much they resist impacts, but they do seem to be awfully strong in general. Like you say, advanced materials - duranium or tritanium - plus SIF, plus inertial dampers, all mean that you could probably drive into a cliff face at hundreds of miles an hour and hardly notice.
Let’s not forget the near mythical - Duratanium
Or the godlike Neutronium!! Supposedly composed of the same matter as neutron stars...

Back to the future reference, “this is heavy!”.