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Hey, what would be the general thought about the black market? I don't mean buying, I mean selling. For example, selling cloaking devices on the black market to pirates and raiders could be very profitable in the short term, but have interesting consequences down the road.

I don't have a problem with having more black markets. I just don't really know how to manage it very well honestly. Hard to establish prices and what not in my view.

I'd say take the total cost of R&D as the "base" value. A 25% to 50% profit would be a normal expectation, say if we opened the neutrel powers to purchasing tech and ships (which would bring them out of the dark ages), but a 75% to 100% profit in the black market (the Orion Syndicate has ALOT of money), but with longer reaching consequences (ie, the Romulans sell cloaking tech to Orion Syndicate who then installs them on raiders working the Klingon transport/freighter routes, which costs the Klingons money, which irritates the Klingons, which causes some sort of retaliation.)

A profitable venture, but a risky one.

Yes, because the Romulans really want to do yet something else to anger the Klingons.

On a side note, are you just trying to pick a new fight between the KE and RSE?

Deepcrush wrote:Yes, because the Romulans really want to do yet something else to anger the Klingons.

On a side note, are you just trying to pick a new fight between the KE and RSE?

Seems everyone is trying that. I'm fine with losing (sort of) the last one, no need for a rematch.

Seems the crowd is calling for it though. Maybe we should have one last big fight out and see who's left? Whats the worst that could happen after all?

Deepcrush wrote:Seems the crowd is calling for it though. Maybe we should have one last big fight out and see who's left? Whats the worst that could happen after all?

Everyone dies except the Pakleds.

Nah, I'll glass their worlds just out of principle.

Please don't go to war, Deep. I'd be obliged to assist stitch via treaty, or risk losing what little face I have in the universe.

Reliant121 wrote:Please don't go to war, Deep. I'd be obliged to assist stitch via treaty, or risk losing what little face I have in the universe.

Considering if you did side against me you'd still lose your face (only from being skinned and mounted on the hull of my flag ship) I don't really see what the problem is.

-sigh-

Reliant121 wrote:-sigh-

Being neutral sucks...its very very hard to do well.

Really, I'm not going to war with anyone. I haven't even moved my fleets into an attack formation. Trust me on this, when war comes you guys will see it bright and clear.

BigJKU316 wrote:

Reliant121 wrote:-sigh-

Being neutral sucks...its very very hard to do well.

Makes me see that fundamentally a neutral alliance doesn't really keep to its name sake much. It is just another alliance with the intent of being nice to everyone else.

Reliant121 wrote:

BigJKU316 wrote:

Reliant121 wrote:-sigh-

Being neutral sucks...its very very hard to do well.

Makes me see that fundamentally a neutral alliance doesn't really keep to its name sake much. It is just another alliance with the intent of being nice to everyone else.

See PM, we need to address this.