Stats of the All Good Things Galaxy-class?

[Captain Picard's Hair]

Eh, there is a pretty large fleet of Nebs with the same saucer and presumably similar power plants that might be able to fit these beasts. Then, there are Sov's. You do have a point wrt the smaller ships, though I recall Graham mentioning that the Defiant could have been made with it's "dustbuster" front deflector-scoop-thing being a superphaser of some sort. At least that would look a bit more sensible than such power coming from relatively puny phaser cannon.

[Reliant121]

I thought pulse weapons have time and again proven more powerful than beam ones, but the beam ones provide more precision, accuracy and control. That was my understanding anyway.

[Captain Picard's Hair]

I thought pulse weapons have time and again proven more powerful than beam ones, but the beam ones provide more precision, accuracy and control. That was my understanding anyway.

That is the understanding indeed; however, this is applied to phaser beam vs phaser cannon of similar average power output over a period of time. Pulse weapons or not, the destruction the Defiant-class ships are able to wreak does seem out of place, especially given the small physical size of her actual phaser cannon.

[Reliant121]

I thought pulse weapons have time and again proven more powerful than beam ones, but the beam ones provide more precision, accuracy and control. That was my understanding anyway.

That is the understanding indeed; however, this is applied to phaser beam vs phaser cannon of similar average power output over a period of time. Pulse weapons or not, the destruction the Defiant-class ships are able to wreak does seem out of place, especially given the small physical size of her actual phaser cannon.

True. I imagine the mere rate of fire does push up the power somewhat, but nowhere near to the amount that Defiant[i/] and Valiant can push out.

[Captain Seafort]

The thing is, it looks as if the Klingons didn't even have shields up. Seems odd.

We didn't see the effect of the first hit, so it's possible, perhaps even likely given the effect of the subsequent shots, that it was enough to bring down the shields.

As for the relative strength of the Negh'var, the design is thirty years old by this point - it wouldn't be at all surprising if it had been relegated to a patrol/fleet support role, and a new design was the Empire's battleship.

[Captain Picard's Hair]

The thing is, it looks as if the Klingons didn't even have shields up. Seems odd.

We didn't see the effect of the first hit, so it's possible, perhaps even likely given the effect of the subsequent shots, that it was enough to bring down the shields.

As for the relative strength of the Negh'var, the design is thirty years old by this point - it wouldn't be at all surprising if it had been relegated to a patrol/fleet support role, and a new design was the Empire's battleship.

Right, but by that time the GCS herself was an even older design, albeit heavily modified.

[Captain Seafort]

True, but the Negh'vars were in (roughly) their original configuration. The E-D had gone through a refit rivalling that of the E-nil.

[Sionnach Glic]

Indeed, it's not too implausable for it to have surpassed them so much.

[Teaos]

The AGT-GCS is almost a totally new ship.

[Sionnach Glic]

Aye, I imagine that only the hull of the ship is the same. The inside is probably massively different.

[Deepcrush]

Lets not forget the Klingon love of boarding parties. It would be a safe bet they dropped their sheilds and AGTED got a nice soft under belly shot.

[Captain Picard's Hair]

Lets not forget the Klingon love of boarding parties. It would be a safe bet they dropped their sheilds and AGTED got a nice soft under belly shot.

They couldn't do this before they had brought down E-D's shields, though (unless they were captained by a complete moron). If E-D's shields were down, she should have been ripped to shreds by the Negh'Var's disruptpr fire.

[Captain Seafort]

I think Deep was refering to the possibility of them sending boarding parties against the Pasteur. I doubt that - it's a hospital ship, so the crew are unlikely to put up a serious fight and it would therefore be something of a dissapointment from the Klingons' point of view. Plus I don't think the Pasteur's shields were down by the time the E-D showed up.

[Tsukiyumi]

Says something for the shields. You'd think two Negh'vars vs a hospital ship would be a short fight.

[Sionnach Glic]

You would, but there it is. Presumably the ship was given heavy shields due to the amount of injured it may be carrying through combat zones.