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There's also the issue of the AT-ST Chewie nicked, and the idiot who Han tricked into opening the door in the middle of the battle.
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Maybe they were "Special" Forces. Not the well-trained kind; think short bus.
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And the squads of elite Rebel commandos, many of whom were ex-Imperial.
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Tsukiyumi wrote:Maybe they were "Special" Forces. Not the well-trained kind; think short bus.
Well you have to admit, Stormtroopers aren't very good troops. I guess even the best of them isn't up to very much.
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You think? They seemed pretty good to me. They performed excelently on the Tantive IV and on Hoth, and they were still winning on Endor until Chewbacca hijacked the AT-ST, despite the many disadvantages they had.
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Graham's probably referring th the now-famous "stormtrooper effect," which describes the fact that supposedly elite, top-of-the-academy and top-trained troops - even ones who could be identified by their accuracy, per Kenobi in ANH - could completely and utterly fail to hit anything or accomplish an objective when protagonists of the story are involved.
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In fairness, they were deliberately letting them get away in most cases. In ANH they had to get away so that Tarkin could track the Falcon, and in ESB they were let run back to the (sabotaged) Falcon which was supposed to have been picked up by the Executor.
Whereas in all the situations where they were allowed perform properly, they did very well. Boarding the Tantive IV, storming the base on Hoth, etc.
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Aye the Tantive IV storming was a full frontal attack through a bottle neck. I thought they did extremely well.
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Nutso wrote:
Monroe wrote:
Rochey wrote:Even the most advanced armour in the world won't stop KE. The only thing the helmets did was stop the rocks hitting the head itself, but the KE would still have continued. Hence they would still have been injured.
Also, they seemed fairly strong for their size. They were throwing rocks the size of heads around like they were made of styrofoam. :wink:
Hmm maybe. We are dealing with future armor though :P You'd think they'd have shock absorbers in place.
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See? He was barely fazed. :lol:
That reminds me, Why do all the doors in Star Wars seem to open in such inefficient ways. A door going up like that would seem to take up more space since they'd need room up top, whereas going into the wall is okay because the wall is already there. It also creates tacticle issues
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I'm always curious that some of the doors seem to close at like 200 mph. One can only presume there's a sensor that stops them closing on somebody, but I'd sure hate to be the guy there on the day it breaks.
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Monroe wrote:Aye the Tantive IV storming was a full frontal attack through a bottle neck. I thought they did extremely well.
They fail on one thing though, no grenade through the hatch before they come in. One or two grenades would have cleared that entire corridor.
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ChakatBlackstar wrote:That reminds me, Why do all the doors in Star Wars seem to open in such inefficient ways. A door going up like that would seem to take up more space since they'd need room up top, whereas going into the wall is okay because the wall is already there. It also creates tacticle issues
GrahamKennedy wrote:I'm always curious that some of the doors seem to close at like 200 mph. One can only presume there's a sensor that stops them closing on somebody, but I'd sure hate to be the guy there on the day it breaks.
They're probably isolation doors - if you suffer a hull breach, you'd want the doors to shut fast, and with the minimum possible chance of failure. Something dropping like that, possibly with an overpressurised gap at the top, would close very rapidly, and wouldn't be dependant on a power supply.
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Cpl Kendall wrote:They fail on one thing though, no grenade through the hatch before they come in. One or two grenades would have cleared that entire corridor.
Grenades are also indiscriminate though - they would, as you say, kill or cripple everyone in the corridor. Who wants to fess up to Darth Vader that they killed the individual he wanted to interrogate?
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Captain Seafort wrote:
ChakatBlackstar wrote:That reminds me, Why do all the doors in Star Wars seem to open in such inefficient ways. A door going up like that would seem to take up more space since they'd need room up top, whereas going into the wall is okay because the wall is already there. It also creates tacticle issues
GrahamKennedy wrote:I'm always curious that some of the doors seem to close at like 200 mph. One can only presume there's a sensor that stops them closing on somebody, but I'd sure hate to be the guy there on the day it breaks.
They're probably isolation doors - if you suffer a hull breach, you'd want the doors to shut fast, and with the minimum possible chance of failure. Something dropping like that, possibly with an overpressurised gap at the top, would close very rapidly, and wouldn't be dependant on a power supply.
Personally I would rather doors like that only worked when there actually was a pressure drop. Rather less lethal that way.
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Captain Seafort wrote:
Grenades are also indiscriminate though - they would, as you say, kill or cripple everyone in the corridor. Who wants to fess up to Darth Vader that they killed the individual he wanted to interrogate?
Than use a stun or gas grenade then. Even a smoke grenade would have been acceptable. The Stormies have imaging devices in their helmets, they could see the Rebels through the smoke and the Rebels would have been pooched.
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