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Re: Right. I'm putting my foot down now.

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:09 pm
by Reliant121
Cpl Kendall wrote:Bravo dude! So do you have trouble finding finding pants that fit your balls?
ah no. APPARENTLY thats dads forte. I have no space for the cucumber ;)

Re: Right. I'm putting my foot down now.

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:18 pm
by Sonic Glitch
Alright, I decided to work out some rudimentary stats. So here they are (before you get your panties (and other assorted undergarments) in a knot , they come wwith Reliants Blessing)

NX-06 Buran
Launched: 21(what year seems good for 06?)
Weapons: 6 advanced Laser cannons
6 x Mod 4 Spatial Torpedoe Launchers. 4 fore 2 aft 25 rounds each
Speed: Mx. Cruise: Warp 4.6
Mx. Possible: Warp 5.2 for 3hrs
--so the WC has been upgraded and the weapons somehow as well.

Re: Right. I'm putting my foot down now.

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 7:08 pm
by Aaron
Reliant121 wrote: ah no. APPARENTLY thats dads forte. I have no space for the cucumber ;)
:lol:
Alright, I decided to work out some rudimentary stats. So here they are (before you get your panties (and other assorted undergarments) in a knot , they come wwith Reliants Blessing)

NX-06 Buran
Launched: 21(what year seems good for 06?)
Weapons: 6 advanced Laser cannons
6 x Mod 4 Spatial Torpedoe Launchers. (the ones w/ atomic warheads)
Speed: Mx. Cruise: Warp 4.6
Mx. Possible: Warp 5.2 for 3hrs
--so the WC has been upgraded and the weapons somehow as well.
Looks good, how many rounds are we going with for the launchers? So we avoid the VOY infinite torpedo syndrome and keep in mind that the front and rear launchers would need seperate magazines (as I haven't seen them move them through the ship and I'm not sure how they'd get them in that little pod), so that means seperate numbers for the front and rear.

Re: Right. I'm putting my foot down now.

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 7:17 pm
by Sonic Glitch
Or we could use the Voyager Infinite Torpedoe Syndrome to our advantage and not worry about such things. :-)

I'm kidding, I see your point. According to Graham, the torpedoe outload of the Enterprise is 5 tubes w/ 40 rounds. But we don't know if thats overall (8 rounds per tube) or 40 rounds each tube (200 rounds total). I would assume since the ES is waking up to the hostilitites out there, and are worrying about Romulans, torpedo capacity may have been upgraded. Which seems more outrageous? 8 rounds per tube, or 200 rounds total?

Re: Right. I'm putting my foot down now.

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 7:25 pm
by Aaron
me,myself and I wrote:Or we could use the Voyager Infinite Torpedoe Syndrome to our advantage and not worry about such things. :-)

I'm kidding, I see your point. According to Graham, the torpedoe outload of the Enterprise is 5 tubes w/ 40 rounds. But we don't know if thats overall (8 rounds per tube) or 40 rounds each tube (200 rounds total). I would assume since the ES is waking up to the hostilitites out there, and are worrying about Romulans, torpedo capacity may have been upgraded. Which seems more outrageous? 8 rounds per tube, or 200 rounds total?
25 per tube I think is good. The forward tubes could actually share their ammo loadout anyways in the advent of some being knocked out. Ditto for the rear.

Re: Right. I'm putting my foot down now.

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 7:26 pm
by Sonic Glitch
Cpl Kendall wrote:
me,myself and I wrote:Or we could use the Voyager Infinite Torpedoe Syndrome to our advantage and not worry about such things. :-)

I'm kidding, I see your point. According to Graham, the torpedoe outload of the Enterprise is 5 tubes w/ 40 rounds. But we don't know if thats overall (8 rounds per tube) or 40 rounds each tube (200 rounds total). I would assume since the ES is waking up to the hostilitites out there, and are worrying about Romulans, torpedo capacity may have been upgraded. Which seems more outrageous? 8 rounds per tube, or 200 rounds total?
25 per tube I think is good. The forward tubes could actually share their ammo loadout anyways in the advent of some being knocked out. Ditto for the rear.
So 150torps over all?

Re: Right. I'm putting my foot down now.

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 7:29 pm
by Aaron
me,myself and I wrote:
So 150torps over all?
Honestly I think that's really high but this is a story and how often do we want to return to dock?

5 x 25=125 BTW

Re: Right. I'm putting my foot down now.

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:41 pm
by Sonic Glitch
Cpl Kendall wrote:
me,myself and I wrote:
So 150torps over all?
Honestly I think that's really high but this is a story and how often do we want to return to dock?

5 x 25=125 BTW
I added a torpedo tube, 6 instead of 5. 6(25)=150.

Re: Right. I'm putting my foot down now.

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:42 pm
by Aaron
me,myself and I wrote:
I added a torpedo tube, 6 instead of 5. 6(25)=150.
Oops! And you already told me that and I missed it, no doubt. :oops:

Re: Right. I'm putting my foot down now.

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:45 pm
by stitch626
Actually, this brings up a problem. In at least one ep (that I can remember, I think it was the Borg one) the aft torp tube was on the pod. In others, there were two on the lower back of the saucer (similar to the front ones). You can see them in the visual model, and I will try to find a picture of them firering.
So, how do we work this out?

Re: Right. I'm putting my foot down now.

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:48 pm
by Sonic Glitch
Thats why I made 6 tubes; 3 fore, 3 aft. I figure we can divide the 150 torps in half and divide them fore and aft. 75 split between the 3 foreward tubes (25 each), but they can share ammo in case on is knocked out or what have you. 75 split between the 3 aft tubes (25 each again) but only the 2 in the saucer can share ammo. If the pod runs out, the pod runs out.

Yes? No? Good? Bad?

Re: Right. I'm putting my foot down now.

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:51 pm
by Captain Seafort
It might be better if we stick with just four tubes to simplify things - two forward, two aft, in the saucer. Either ignore the one in the rollbar or say that the later ships didn't have it because it complicated ammunition supply or some such.

Re: Right. I'm putting my foot down now.

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:53 pm
by stitch626
I prefer Seaforts idea, but ultimatly it's up to Reliant.

Re: Right. I'm putting my foot down now.

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:54 pm
by Blackstar the Chakat
me,myself and I wrote:Thats why I made 6 tubes; 3 fore, 3 aft. I figure we can divide the 150 torps in half and divide them fore and aft. 75 split between the 3 foreward tubes (25 each), but they can share ammo in case on is knocked out or what have you. 75 split between the 3 aft tubes (25 each again) but only the 2 in the saucer can share ammo. If the pod runs out, the pod runs out.

Yes? No? Good? Bad?
There are four forward firing tubes on the model.

Re: Right. I'm putting my foot down now.

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:55 pm
by Sonic Glitch
Captain Seafort wrote:It might be better if we stick with just four tubes to simplify things - two forward, two aft, in the saucer. Either ignore the one in the rollbar or say that the later ships didn't have it because it complicated ammunition supply or some such.
IDK, the stats say 5 tubes on the Ent. I figure they wouldn't decrease the ammount of tubes, especially if there's a crisis brewing.

4 forward tubes? I'd say 7 tubes is a little outrageous :-). How can we compromise on this?