Re: Civilian Ships
Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:14 pm
From what I've read, an armoured car isn't supposed to survive a full on attack, just survive long enough to escape from an ambush.
I think it's more a question of "incapable" rather than "not supposed to." If you read the link Tsu posted about "Cadillac One," you'll notice it's built on the chassis of a C4500... which I used to sell as 17,500-lb. or 19,500-lb. dump trucks. "Normal" armored cars are necessarily built on light-duty sedan chassis, and therefore cannot feasibly carry enough protection to do any more than hold proof against light small-arms fire. I say light, because I can't think of an armored car that's proof against one of the big hunting revolvers, like a Casull or one of them big .750 Russian 5-shooters.kostmayer wrote:From what I've read, an armoured car isn't supposed to survive a full on attack, just survive long enough to escape from an ambush.
Oh yeah, definite difference in terminology.Captain Seafort wrote:From this, I think the problem is one of terminology. An armoured car is not a civvie car with armour - it's one of these.stitch626 wrote:Ah, yes. Nothing like that is sold in our area. Instead, any "armoured" cars sold here are simply the same vehicle with a few mm of steel instead of thin metal + fiberglass.
Certainly not to what I had referred. You'd know the military nomenclature better than I, but if you put a gun to my head and told me to ID that thing, I'd call it a very small IFV.Captain Seafort wrote:From this, I think the problem is one of terminology. An armoured car is not a civvie car with armour - it's one of these.
Eh? What do you think the "I" in IFV stands for? Look at the thing - how do you expect to fit any more than the crew in that. Very small AFV, sure, and that's what it is - "armoured car" is simply a more specific term.Mikey wrote:if you put a gun to my head and told me to ID that thing, I'd call it a very small IFV.
You can't - you can get custom-modified (or at most very limited production) road cars with armour plating.Reliant121 wrote:I didnt even know you could get standard road cars with armour plating on them.
Reliant121 wrote:Ah, so this would be a trend of plating your car with thin bullet proof material.
Unless in American its more common than it is here. I have to admit it gave me the rather ridiculous image of a Fiat Panda in armour plating.
I've heard that custom-made armored SUVs are popular among affluent people in Mexico City, because there's an epidemic of people being kidnapped right out of their cars.Captain Seafort wrote:You can't - you can get custom-modified (or at most very limited production) road cars with armour plating.
Nothing of the sort. As Seafort vaguely alluded to, you can't just take a production vehicle and put armor and bullet-resistant glass on it, any more than you can make a streched vehicle simply by cutting it apart and adding a bit in the middle. The chassis has to be specially reinforced; the A, B, and C pillars have to be stiffened and strenghtened; etc. In addition, the process generally involves strengthening and cladding the rims so the vehicle can drive without one or more tires.Reliant121 wrote:Ah, so this would be a trend of plating your car with thin bullet proof material.
Unless in American its more common than it is here. I have to admit it gave me the rather ridiculous image of a Fiat Panda in armour plating.
Yes, kidnapping is the new national sport of Mexico, eclipsing even football.Lazar wrote:I've heard that custom-made armored SUVs are popular among affluent people in Mexico City, because there's an epidemic of people being kidnapped right out of their cars.Captain Seafort wrote:You can't - you can get custom-modified (or at most very limited production) road cars with armour plating.
Edited for accuracy.Mark wrote:My uncle had a friend who had an armored Mercedez Benz. He was affiliated with some criminal elements in Chicago......so it made sense for him.
Fixed.Sonic Glitch wrote:Edited for accuracy.Mark wrote:My uncle had a friend who had an armored Mercedez Benz. He was affiliated withsome criminal elements inChicago......so it made sense for him.