Rewatching the series

RK_Striker_JK_5
3 Star Admiral
3 Star Admiral
Posts: 12986
Joined: Wed Jul 25, 2007 5:27 am
Commendations: The Daystrom Award, Cochrane Medal of Excellence
Location: New Hampshire
Contact:

Rewatching the series

Post by RK_Striker_JK_5 »

I got seasons three and four this Thursday. I'm rewatching it and...

1. G'Kar is badass.

2. Kosh the First was actually a pretty cool guy.

3. I actually like the effects.

4. Cartagia's even more insane than I remember.

5. Lorien, I'd love immortality. You don't want yours, I'll GLADLY take it.
User avatar
kostmayer
Captain
Captain
Posts: 2812
Joined: Sun Jul 15, 2007 11:08 am

Re: Rewatching the series

Post by kostmayer »

Rewatched it myself last year. Takes at least one rewatch to appreciate how well the whole show was planned out.

G'Kar was indeed badass, and had the best character development in the show IMO
"You ain't gonna get off down the trail a mile or two, and go missing your wife or something, like our last cook done, are you?"
"My wife is in hell, where I sent her. She could make good biscuits, but her behavior was terrible."
RK_Striker_JK_5
3 Star Admiral
3 Star Admiral
Posts: 12986
Joined: Wed Jul 25, 2007 5:27 am
Commendations: The Daystrom Award, Cochrane Medal of Excellence
Location: New Hampshire
Contact:

Re: Rewatching the series

Post by RK_Striker_JK_5 »

Sheridan and Delenn are in that mind thing with the Vorlons and Shadows.
User avatar
Tholian_Avenger
Lieutenant jg
Lieutenant jg
Posts: 356
Joined: Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:51 am
Location: Here, just past there.

Re: Rewatching the series

Post by Tholian_Avenger »

Totally going to disagree and say Zathru . . . :poke:
. . . Londo, yes Londo, had the best character development.
6 Star Admiral of the Loyal Water Buffaloes and Honorable Turtles
RK_Striker_JK_5
3 Star Admiral
3 Star Admiral
Posts: 12986
Joined: Wed Jul 25, 2007 5:27 am
Commendations: The Daystrom Award, Cochrane Medal of Excellence
Location: New Hampshire
Contact:

Re: Rewatching the series

Post by RK_Striker_JK_5 »

I'd say it's a tossup between Londo and G'Kar.
User avatar
Tinadrin Chelnor
Lieutenant Commander
Lieutenant Commander
Posts: 922
Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2010 3:11 am
Location: Pendroca IV

Re: Rewatching the series

Post by Tinadrin Chelnor »

I have every Babylon 5 series, film, and offshoot. I love the setting. G'Kar is by far my favourite character, closely followed by Londo.
I am currently rewatching again from the first series (I rewatch the entire lot at least once a year).
It is a great shame that many of the cast have passed on beyond the rim.
"No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against that power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand."
User avatar
Jim
Captain
Captain
Posts: 1907
Joined: Wed Oct 10, 2007 2:32 pm
Location: Pittsburgh
Contact:

Re: Rewatching the series

Post by Jim »

G'kar was my favorite as well. Katsulas did an amazing actig job. Really helped offset some of the questionable acting by other main characters.

As to the character development question... I agree with both comments above... in a way. I think that the writers did a better job at fleshing out Londo and going into his mind and developing his character that way, depth. G'Kar developed as a character the most though. He went from someone that was relatively one dimentional and just wanted revenge, to a very inportant player in B5, the Shadow war and "religious" icon to his own people, breadth.

Londo did change his "political" position, but his change was not as far a journey as G'Kar's. G'Kar's transformation was much bigger than Londo's, but the writing seemed to push it alond easier than Londo's journey.
Ugh... do not thump the Book of G'Quan...
RK_Striker_JK_5
3 Star Admiral
3 Star Admiral
Posts: 12986
Joined: Wed Jul 25, 2007 5:27 am
Commendations: The Daystrom Award, Cochrane Medal of Excellence
Location: New Hampshire
Contact:

Re: Rewatching the series

Post by RK_Striker_JK_5 »

After hearing what Michael O'Hare went through during season one... DAMN.

Also, I sometimes wanna send the Minbari to fight Time War-era Daleks. Like the episode I'm watching right now, 'Atonement'.
User avatar
McAvoy
Rear Admiral
Rear Admiral
Posts: 6225
Joined: Wed Feb 13, 2008 1:39 am
Location: East Windsor, NJ

Re: Rewatching the series

Post by McAvoy »

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:After hearing what Michael O'Hare went through during season one... DAMN.

Also, I sometimes wanna send the Minbari to fight Time War-era Daleks. Like the episode I'm watching right now, 'Atonement'.
What did Michael O'Hara go through?
"Don't underestimate the power of technobabble: the Federation can win anything with the sheer force of bullshit"
RK_Striker_JK_5
3 Star Admiral
3 Star Admiral
Posts: 12986
Joined: Wed Jul 25, 2007 5:27 am
Commendations: The Daystrom Award, Cochrane Medal of Excellence
Location: New Hampshire
Contact:

Re: Rewatching the series

Post by RK_Striker_JK_5 »

This.
At a convention in Phoenix, Arizona, Straczynski fulfilled a nineteen-year-old promise by revealing the real reason O'Hare left the show. O'Hare had been suffering a debilitating psychiatric condition during the filming of the first season. He had good days and bad days, but getting the full medical treatment he needed would take much longer than the relatively brief hiatus between seasons. Straczynski offered to shut down production of the series so O'Hare could get the treatment he needed, but O'Hare refused to put the jobs of the hundreds of people involved in the making of the series at risk. Instead, O'Hare chose to leave and return when his treatment permitted to conclude his character arc. Ultimately, he reappeared in one episode of Season 2 and two of Season 3 to round off his storyline. Straczynski promised O'Hare to keep the reason for his departure to his grave, but O'Hare only asked him to keep it until he reached his grave.
User avatar
McAvoy
Rear Admiral
Rear Admiral
Posts: 6225
Joined: Wed Feb 13, 2008 1:39 am
Location: East Windsor, NJ

Re: Rewatching the series

Post by McAvoy »

Ahhhh... I have always wondered about that. Thanks.
"Don't underestimate the power of technobabble: the Federation can win anything with the sheer force of bullshit"
Tsukiyumi
4 Star Admiral
4 Star Admiral
Posts: 21747
Joined: Fri Oct 12, 2007 2:38 pm
Location: Forward Torpedo Tube Twenty. Help!
Contact:

Re: Rewatching the series

Post by Tsukiyumi »

Wow. Good on JMS for doing that, and good on Michael O'Hare for managing the whole season.
There is only one way of avoiding the war – that is the overthrow of this society. However, as we are too weak for this task, the war is inevitable. -L. Trotsky, 1939
RK_Striker_JK_5
3 Star Admiral
3 Star Admiral
Posts: 12986
Joined: Wed Jul 25, 2007 5:27 am
Commendations: The Daystrom Award, Cochrane Medal of Excellence
Location: New Hampshire
Contact:

Re: Rewatching the series

Post by RK_Striker_JK_5 »

Yeah. There were about a thousand ways it could've gone horribly wrong. Kudos to both of them for how it was handled.
User avatar
Reliant121
3 Star Admiral
3 Star Admiral
Posts: 12263
Joined: Thu Jul 26, 2007 5:00 pm

Re: Rewatching the series

Post by Reliant121 »

The fact they managed to write in a reasonably convincing way for him to leave, the fact he continued to work all the way through the season...the fact that JMS was willing to hold the entire show for his treatment. All round amazing.
RK_Striker_JK_5
3 Star Admiral
3 Star Admiral
Posts: 12986
Joined: Wed Jul 25, 2007 5:27 am
Commendations: The Daystrom Award, Cochrane Medal of Excellence
Location: New Hampshire
Contact:

Re: Rewatching the series

Post by RK_Striker_JK_5 »

"We'll be okay as long as nothing goes wrong." Oh, Susan. Why did you say that?!
Post Reply