USS Vengeance !!!SPOILERS!!!

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LaughingCheese wrote:Oh, forgive my ignorance, what was wrong with Section 31?

Sure they're crosswise with Gene's views but I still think they're a cool idea. To each their own I guess.
Or an abomination depending upon your point of view.
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LaughingCheese wrote:Well I don't think I said that he does
Kinda looks like you said it to me... but never mind.
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IanKennedy wrote:
LaughingCheese wrote:Oh, forgive my ignorance, what was wrong with Section 31?

Sure they're crosswise with Gene's views but I still think they're a cool idea. To each their own I guess.
Or an abomination depending upon your point of view.
LaughingCheese wrote:(which is an obvious flip off to fans like the Ex-Astris guy [Bernd?])
LaughingCheese wrote:Well I don't think I said that he does
Kinda looks like you said it to me... but never mind.

Well.....obviously I am inept at getting points across. Carry on. :P
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Doubtful it is Section 31. While I am sure Abrams will fit in nice little nods to the original series and maybe TNG, Section 31 is a very specific thing only hardcore fans would know.
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For all the shit Section 31 got, it was overall rather popular with casual fans from what I recall at the time. Its only hardcore fans who thought it was anti ST that hated it.
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I suspect it will be exactly Section 31, even if it's not given that name.
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I'm hoping for a splinter group with in the Federation.

The Federation is splitting in 2 or 3 after the fall of the Vulcans and this is a power play by one of the groups who think they need to be more agressive, maybe prompted by agressive moves by the Klingons or Romulans after the Nerada.

Federation civil war ftw.
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Hmm... he's an operative and he says the bosses have committed crimes. Not sure that fits.
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Wishful thinking :)
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Hate to say it but what comes to my mind is the Steven Segal movie Under Siege. Obviously it's not the same story but Tommy Lee Jones's character is the kind of "Rogue operative who hijacks big powerful ship and turns on his bosses" that I imagine Harrison will be.
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Harrison does seem either super human, or just really really good on some scenes, obviously not a normal officer.
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If he's the "Top" of anything then he clearly isn't going to be anything like a normal officer. He has to be everything that a normal officer wishes they could be.
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But no match for the Shatner Kirk's judo chop not to mention if he ripped his shirt.
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That and kirk wasn't above beating someone with a metal pipe when he felt the need.
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Deepcrush wrote:That and kirk wasn't above beating someone with a metal pipe when he felt the need.
Or a home made bazooka.
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Or just shag em.
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