Captain Seafort wrote:
Who knows? What we do know is that the Jedi were always depicted as agents of the state, reporting back to the Chancellor.
And would they have done so if Palpatine, the legally and lawfully ELECTED chancellor (long before he was really guilty of any wrongdoing and the clonewars) would have been open about him being a Sith? Or would they have removed him from office because of their philosophical differences? An interesting thought, isn't it?
Captain Seafort wrote:The Emperor personally authorised the DS project as part of his long-term plan to secure the New Order through the Tarkin Doctrine, and gave Tarkin authorisation in advance to deploy DS I against Alderaan. Moreover Vader was sent to the station as the Emperor's personal representative, so if destroying Alderaan had been contrary to the Emperor's wishes Tarkin would have suddenly found himself very short of breath well before he could have got the order out.
Irrelevant. If I may quote a dialoge from the film Conspiracy, a brilliant movie about the Wanneseekonferenz:
Kritzinger: No, that is not, that is contrary to what the Chancellory has been told! I have been told, I have... Purge the Jews, yes. But,to annihilate them... That we have undertaken to systematically annihilate all the Jews of Europe? No, that respnsibility has personally been denied, to me, by the Fuhrer!
Heydrich: And it will continue to be.
Kritzinger: Yes, I understand. Yes. He will continue to deny it.
The same applies here I believe. Palpatine must have been howling mad to accept responsibility for that if there was the chance that he could make Tarkin the scapegoat.
Captain Seafort wrote:One maniac who was Palpatine's effective second in command, who issued his orders while the regulars stood by and behaved as though this was routine. The conduct of the Supreme Commander of the Imperial Fleet had be reasonably taken to be official policy for said Fleet.
We must agree to disagree on this one since imho everyone - officers and crew alike - seem to have been shocked by Vaders behaviour, they were just to professional to let it show much. Piet certainly was uneasy with it and the Star Destroyer captain apologizing in person certainly didn't count on being choked to death. Which leads me to believe that Vaders behaviour was NOT routinly expected behaviour.
Captain Seafort wrote:Agreed. This is not exactly a ringing endorsement. In any even, Solo wasn't personally responsible for the Death Star's destruction - Luke was.
Well he singlehandedly destroyed a wing of tie-fighters who until then successfully thwarted every attempt at the DS and did it with an old freighter held together with spittle and prayers AND he did it for booty and not because the voices in his head told him to which makes him every kind of awesome in my book. He is as responsible for the DS destruction as anyone can be except for Luke and it's imho no surprise that they were equally honored in the end of the movie.
Captain Seafort wrote:Read what I wrote - I specifically referred to the mid-30s.
Unless you are saying that the empire would have started killing them off sooner or later I don't see how it would compare. Black people were also second class citizien but in the end they were not killed of and exiled but made equals and integrated and the same might have happened in time with the Empire.
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