McAvoy wrote:GrahamKennedy wrote:On a GCS you get 10 minutes per person per week per holodeck.
So for each person to have even one hour a day holodeck time, you would need 42 of them.
Where did you get the 10 minutes per person per week per holodeck from?
GrahamKennedy wrote:McAvoy wrote:Math. There's 10,080 minutes in a week, and 1,014 people on the ship. So 1 holodeck affords 9.94 minutes per person per week.Math.Math.Math.
Griffin wrote:GrahamKennedy wrote:McAvoy wrote:Math. There's 10,080 minutes in a week, and 1,014 people on the ship. So 1 holodeck affords 9.94 minutes per person per week.Math.Math.Math.
Isn't that treason?
GrahamKennedy wrote:McAvoy wrote:GrahamKennedy wrote:On a GCS you get 10 minutes per person per week per holodeck.
So for each person to have even one hour a day holodeck time, you would need 42 of them.
Where did you get the 10 minutes per person per week per holodeck from?
Math. There's 10,080 minutes in a week, and 1,014 people on the ship. So 1 holodeck affords 9.94 minutes per person per week.
McAvoy wrote:I don't see it as Navy ships where even Master Chiefs (the highest you can go as an enlisted) do not get their own suites but bunk up with other Chiefs. They get far larger bunks than lower enlisted though. Lower officer ranks get similar accomodations as well. I see Starfleet being (obviously) more accomodating to their grunts and lower ranks since typically Starfleet ships operate on their own for years even with occasional docking with bases. Your typical Navy ship doesn't do that. Go out for a few weeks, come back in, go out, go back in, go on deployment for months, and come back.
Atekimogus wrote:McAvoy wrote:I don't see it as Navy ships where even Master Chiefs (the highest you can go as an enlisted) do not get their own suites but bunk up with other Chiefs. They get far larger bunks than lower enlisted though. Lower officer ranks get similar accomodations as well. I see Starfleet being (obviously) more accomodating to their grunts and lower ranks since typically Starfleet ships operate on their own for years even with occasional docking with bases. Your typical Navy ship doesn't do that. Go out for a few weeks, come back in, go out, go back in, go on deployment for months, and come back.
Well, maybe the assignment of quarters has nothing, or little, to do with the rank you hold but more with your actual need.
For example, Picard - altough Captain of the ship - doesn't really need huge quarters since most of the time he is busy running the ship, in his ready room etc. and basically needs only a place to sleep. Assigning him therefore huge quarters just because he is captain would be a waste of space, even on a ship has huge as a GCS.
On the other hand, a crewman, with a spouse and possible children has greater need of larger quarters and he/she might request them irrespective of rank.
Or a crewman has special enviromental needs, like Benzites or somesuch, requiring a rather special accomodation, again irrespective of rank.
That junior officers need to bunk or have roommates seems more like an educational matter and I would imagine that they soon get their own quarters and while there maybe are certain privileges coming with a higher rank, it would seem incredibly petty for a starfleet officer begruding someone bigger quarters just because of a higher rank, evenmoreso, when the basic living-space is covered for everyone.
(I just cannot imagine Picard, for example, insisting on having the biggest and most luxurous quarters on the ship just because he is the captain, while a family with 8 children is cramped into a smaller one.)
McAvoy wrote:Atekimogus wrote:McAvoy wrote:I don't see it as Navy ships where even Master Chiefs (the highest you can go as an enlisted) do not get their own suites but bunk up with other Chiefs. They get far larger bunks than lower enlisted though. Lower officer ranks get similar accomodations as well. I see Starfleet being (obviously) more accomodating to their grunts and lower ranks since typically Starfleet ships operate on their own for years even with occasional docking with bases. Your typical Navy ship doesn't do that. Go out for a few weeks, come back in, go out, go back in, go on deployment for months, and come back.
Well, maybe the assignment of quarters has nothing, or little, to do with the rank you hold but more with your actual need.
For example, Picard - altough Captain of the ship - doesn't really need huge quarters since most of the time he is busy running the ship, in his ready room etc. and basically needs only a place to sleep. Assigning him therefore huge quarters just because he is captain would be a waste of space, even on a ship has huge as a GCS.
On the other hand, a crewman, with a spouse and possible children has greater need of larger quarters and he/she might request them irrespective of rank.
Or a crewman has special enviromental needs, like Benzites or somesuch, requiring a rather special accomodation, again irrespective of rank.
That junior officers need to bunk or have roommates seems more like an educational matter and I would imagine that they soon get their own quarters and while there maybe are certain privileges coming with a higher rank, it would seem incredibly petty for a starfleet officer begruding someone bigger quarters just because of a higher rank, evenmoreso, when the basic living-space is covered for everyone.
(I just cannot imagine Picard, for example, insisting on having the biggest and most luxurous quarters on the ship just because he is the captain, while a family with 8 children is cramped into a smaller one.)
Such is the life of a high ranking officer vs. lower ranking ones. Your logic while sound, can also be said about navy ships of today. Admirals and Captains on a ship even as large as a aircraft carrier is bigger than most apartments whereas even a grade below him (Commanders) have to share a room with another.
McAvoy wrote:Such is the life of a high ranking officer vs. lower ranking ones. Your logic while sound, can also be said about navy ships of today. Admirals and Captains on a ship even as large as a aircraft carrier is bigger than most apartments whereas even a grade below him (Commanders) have to share a room with another.
Atekimogus wrote:Now we have seen all the quarters from all the officers and a few noncoms and it seems they all have exactly the same space available for their basic habitual needs which is irrespective of their rank + they get to use a few rooms needed with their posts. Picard get's his ready room and yacht, Crusher has her medical bay and office etc.etc..those are the perks of rank, however, their private quarters are the same for everyone without special needs (spouse, kids etc.).
Atekimogus wrote:Given their morality and mentality I am sure that the assignation of quarters is regulated and has not necessarily something to do with rank. And why should it, if even the least of the quarters available is more or less the size of a big hotel room or a small appartment...what else could you need? If you need more space there is plenty of free community-space, ten forward, holodecks etc.. why waste it on supersize appartments noone "really" needs?
GrahamKennedy wrote:It seems pretty obviously rank related to me. We know that Ensigns share quarters, and then get their own when they make Lieutenant. Nor are quarters the same for everyone - we've seen Data's quarters and they are much smaller than those of the higher ranked Picard/Riker/Troi.
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