Top ten of TNG

[Mikey]

Actually, I was talking about Bill Hicks and Dimebag Darrell.

Didn't he put on a skirt change it to "Diamond Darrell?"

I was thinking about a kegger.

Always a good thought.

[Tsukiyumi]

Actually, I was talking about Bill Hicks and Dimebag Darrell.

Didn't he put on a skirt change it to "Diamond Darrell?"

Actually, it was from "Diamond" to "Dimebag" sometime in the early 90's.

[Mikey]

Yeah, I knew it was something like that. Although I have to say, for a member of a fairly prestigious metal band (at one point,) "dimebag" still seems to be thinking small.

[RK_Striker_JK_5]

Hmm, 20 would be a tall order. I'm not sure i could get it into any semblance of order because after BOTB and Measure of a Man, they kinda slide around on the list depending on my mood.

[Deepcrush]

Hmm, 20 would be a tall order. I'm not sure i could get it into any semblance of order because after BOTB and Measure of a Man, they kinda slide around on the list depending on my mood.

I don't really think it would be all that hard. If we have a couple of people put up their order of top twenty. First being a 20pt ep, second being a 19pt ep and so on down the line. We would come out with a fair average.

[thelordharry]

No Darmok? Shaka, when the walls fell.

Can't fault that ten though...

[Deepcrush]

While "Darmok" was an interesting ep, for me it didn't carry the weight that some of the other eps did.

[Tyyr]

I like Darmok conceptually as it's the very heart of Gene's vision for Trek and it shows the Federation at their finest. However I hate the Tamarians. I mean I fucking HATE the Tamarians.

[Tsukiyumi]

I tend to agree. Why, besides the resource and territory gain, do you think I invaded them in the Sim?

[Tyyr]

Well I've opened communications with them in my Sim.

They've either agreed to join the Union or insulted my mother. Either way, works for me.

They're just a stupid race with a ridiculous quirk to prevent communication.

[Mikey]

The themes in Darmok were great, but the execution was a study in the worst, laziest sort of deus ex machina. There HAPPENED to be an invisible monster, there HAPPENED to be a quantum excuse why they had to fight the beast with a pair of Arkansas toothpicks, the Tamarians HAPPENED to have the tech to nullify Fed transporters. Winfield was great, though.

[Tyyr]

I dunno. I buy that the Tamarians picked this planet because of the monster and Trek transporters go on the fritz on a regular basis. None of the set up is too much of a stretch. It's just their fucking language.

[Captain Seafort]

The themes in Darmok were great, but the execution was a study in the worst, laziest sort of deus ex machina. There HAPPENED to be an invisible monster, there HAPPENED to be a quantum excuse why they had to fight the beast with a pair of Arkansas toothpicks, the Tamarians HAPPENED to have the tech to nullify Fed transporters. Winfield was great, though.

The last one is, admittedly, a bit of a Deus Ex, but given that the Tamarians specifically summoned the E-D to El-Adrel with "beam down and fight the monster" as Plan-B, it's to be expected that they'd have selected the system for precisely those characteristics.

[Mikey]

It's certainly not uncommon for transporters/phasers/tech-of-the-week to be rendered inoperative by some handwave effect; but in this case it seems more forced and inorganic than usual. Perhaps it's magnified because this episode highlights such a difference between quality level of the execution and the adherence to the ideals of 'Trek.