Mikey wrote:Ummm.... OK. And... ?
Ummm...Was just stating something relevant to the discussion that I found interesting...ummmm....
Mikey wrote:Ummm.... OK. And... ?
Not relevant actually because, as I said, MB is a repository of non-canon material.Victory is Life wrote:Ummm...Was just stating something relevant to the discussion that I found interesting...ummmm....
[/quote]Captain Seafort wrote:What gives you that idea? In many ways the CIA is the perfect analogy, given their tendency towards action rather than just intelligence gathering.Lighthawk wrote:Remember though, S31 isn't an intelligence agency in the same sense of the CIA or the like.
Captain Seafort wrote:Not relevant actually because, as I said, MB is a repository of non-canon material.Victory is Life wrote:Ummm...Was just stating something relevant to the discussion that I found interesting...ummmm....
And trying to murder the head of state of a country the US is not at war with is consistent with the law and moral code of the US?Lighthawk wrote:As I recall, which could be wrong granted, but S31 was brought into existence due to the realization that in order for the Federation to survive, there would be times when the necessary action would be one that violated Federation law and/or moral code.
In other words, S31 is a typical intelligence agency. I see no difference between those two definitions.they seem to concern themselves with events that A) threaten the whole of the Federation, and B) that SF itself can't deal with. Your typical intelligence agency, if you can call one typical, generally cares about and gets involved in any threat it finds out about, depending on the scale and available resources of course.
Tsukiyumi wrote:For the record, the Obsidian Order had nothing to do with the Prometheus theft.
Its a wonder that they get ANYTHING done.....Mikey wrote:Typical intelligence agencies don't involve themselves with any threat - rather, they tend to limit themselves to their own mission statements/spheres of influence. The CIA rarely involves itself with internal affairs that are more appropriately the province of the FBI, and neither one tends to attend ,ilitary matters which are the province of the NSA (for example.) Neither prosecutes national-level counterfeiting investigations, which are the province of the Secret Service. Etc., etc.
I don't know if it's against the "Moral code of the US", but it's certainly morally not above the US's history of intelligence operations in Latin America. They did killed a lot of people over there between the 50's and now.Captain Seafort wrote:And trying to murder the head of state of a country the US is not at war with is consistent with the law and moral code of the US?Lighthawk wrote:As I recall, which could be wrong granted, but S31 was brought into existence due to the realization that in order for the Federation to survive, there would be times when the necessary action would be one that violated Federation law and/or moral code.