Defiance of the defiant

[stitch626]

For once I'm going to have to side with Google.

With hyperactive zeds and a vendetta against "u"s? Why?

Because the "u"s are unnecessary.
How do you pronounce colour? Like or or our?

[Sionnach Glic]

Well, you certainly don't pronounce it "col-or". You pronounce it "cul-uur". Which, in English, is represented by "colour".

[stitch626]

Well, you certainly don't pronounce it "col-or". You pronounce it "cul-uur". Which, in English, is represented by "colour".

Nope, I pronounce it correctly. Col-or.
Its just that when said quickly, an untrained ear hears ur instead of or.

[Sionnach Glic]

Precisely, the last sylable is pronounced as a u sound. Thus "colour".

[Praeothmin]

I'm Canadian, so we pronounce it "Col-eh-ur", thus we write "Colour"...

[stitch626]

Precisely, the last sylable is pronounced as a u sound. Thus "colour".

Well, whomever does so is pronouncing it wrong. According to the dictionary, color and or are pronounced the same (upside e then r) where as the ur sound is from a u with a ^ on top, which is not present in the pronunciation of color, flavor, or any other or... that I can think of at the moment.

[Captain Seafort]

Well, whomever does so is pronouncing it wrong. According to the dictionary, color and or are pronounced the same (upside e then r) where as the ur sound is from a u with a ^ on top, which is not present in the pronunciation of color, flavor, or any other or... that I can think of at the moment.

And which dictionary would this be? If it can't even spell the word I wouldn't put great store by it being able to define the pronunciation properly.

[Lazar]

Precisely, the last sylable is pronounced as a u sound. Thus "colour".

Arguments over which spelling better suits the pronunciation will get us nowhere - in the IPA it's pronounced /ˈkʌlər/ or /ˈkʌlə/, and if we had a saner spelling system it might be "culler". American spelling reformers just chose "color" over "colour" because they wanted to use a shorter and more Latinate spelling.

And which dictionary would this be? If it can't even spell the word I wouldn't put great store by it being able to define the pronunciation properly.

American dictionaries typically use their own made-up, ad hoc phonetic alphabets, rather than IPA.

[Tsukiyumi]

...made-up...

Yeah, technically, isn't all language just "made up"?

[Lazar]

Yeah, technically, isn't all language just "made up"?

Well yeah, but I meant they use their own dictionary-specific alphabets rather than the IPA, which is the worldwide standard for linguists. I'm a bit of a language nerd in my spare time.

[Sonic Glitch]

Precisely, the last sylable is pronounced as a u sound. Thus "colour".

Arguments over which spelling better suits the pronunciation will get us nowhere - in the IPA it's pronounced /ˈkʌlər/ or /ˈkʌlə/, and if we had a saner spelling system it might be "culler". American spelling reformers just chose "color" over "colour" because they wanted to use a shorter and more Latinate spelling.

And because of the desire for a national identity separate from England. The American language rules were essentially created to distance American English from England to help foster a new national identity (we just talked about languages in Elements of Cultural Geography)

[Tsukiyumi]

...nerd in my spare time.

Really?

[Mark]

...nerd in my spare time.

Really?

:::shaking head:::

And here we thought he fit in this whole time.....oh wait

[McAvoy]

Precisely, the last sylable is pronounced as a u sound. Thus "colour".

Arguments over which spelling better suits the pronunciation will get us nowhere - in the IPA it's pronounced /ˈkʌlər/ or /ˈkʌlə/, and if we had a saner spelling system it might be "culler". American spelling reformers just chose "color" over "colour" because they wanted to use a shorter and more Latinate spelling.

And which dictionary would this be? If it can't even spell the word I wouldn't put great store by it being able to define the pronunciation properly.

American dictionaries typically use their own made-up, ad hoc phonetic alphabets, rather than IPA.

I was under the impression that Webster himself in the early 19th century created the new American spelling for various words. Something having to do with making the new country different from the old?