Uh oh... too many similarities

[stitch626]

I figured this out last night as I was trying to get to sleep (which didn't happen BTW).

In the new movie, the ships are now rather large.
Travel times are excessively shorter.
There is no warp flash.
Warp now looks like hyperdrive.
There are now laser cannons, sorry point defense cannons, on the Kelvin.
Phasers are now an elongated bolt, kinda like turbolasers
There are blaster pistols, I mean, the type II phaser fires a bolt, not a beam.
Sulu has a lightsaber, I mean a retractable sword.
Ships are now industrialized.

If it weren't for the lack of alphabet fighters, I'd think this were a different movie.

[Nickswitz]

Wow, no, not that many similarities, your sickness is taking over your head.

[stitch626]

Well... yeah I am a bit delirious.

But their still creepy similarities.
And I'm not the only one that noticed it. My friend (who thinks Star Trek is a plague... I still wonder how I convinced him to go) said it didn't seem like Trek. The fast paced action. The "fire everything and the battle is over" stuff.

[Nickswitz]

said it didn't seem like Trek

He's never really seen Trek, how would he know.

The "fire everything and the battle is over" stuff.

This is how it usually is, when it's a huge ship against a little ship, the little ship can't do much but fire everything.

[stitch626]

said it didn't seem like Trek

He's never really seen Trek, how would he know.

He has actually, though he won't admit it.

[Sionnach Glic]

In the new movie, the ships are now rather large.

That actualy makes sense. Starfleet should be more than capable of building kilometre long vessels. If anything, the nEnterprise's larger size makes more sense than the flagship of the fleet being fairly tiny.

Travel times are excessively shorter.

I think the jury's still out on that one. We get no solid figures on it, and editing probably cuts out the majority of the time between, making the times appear only minutes long.

There is no warp flash.
Warp now looks like hyperdrive.

Personaly, I liked the new effect. The "bright lights flying past the ship" style we had before was pretty bland.

There are now laser cannons, sorry point defense cannons, on the Kelvin.

Which makes perfect sense. PD weapons should be on vessels to shoot down incoming torpedoes and small craft.

Phasers are now an elongated bolt, kinda like turbolasers

Yeah, I didn't like that one. Energy weapons should be beams that travel at the speed of light. Granted, phasers traveled slower than light in the other series, but it was still more realistic than energy bolts.

There are blaster pistols, I mean, the type II phaser fires a bolt, not a beam.

You mean like the rifles we've seen throughout all the TNG movies?

Sulu has a lightsaber, I mean a retractable sword.

Sulu's sword was nothing like a lightsaber. It was just a sword that was retractable. If it had been encased in a sheath of energy, you might have a point, but even then it'd be more like a 40K power sword.

Ships are now industrialized.

Good. That's how they should look.

If it weren't for the lack of alphabet fighters, I'd think this were a different movie.

Yeah, I call BS on that. The tech has damn all similarity to that of Star Wars, which I'm guessing is what you're implying. We've seen plenty of ships in Trek fire bolts before. We've seen tunnel-like FTL effects in Trek before. Ships should look like that on the inside, and PD weapons make perfect sense. If anything, the tech (with the exception of FTL) now resembles B5 more than SW. It also resembles that of Andromeda. And 40K. And, yes, Star Wars. Newsflash: they aren't all that different if you just compare superficial effects. I can compare any sci-fi show to another and make a case for them being similar using your exact same tactics.

[stitch626]

Well give me a little break. I'm sick and now sleep deprived. My brain isn't functioning normally.

This was all thought up at... I think it was 2:00 AM.



So if the new E is 1 km long, does this mean that the E-E would be 16 km long?

[Sionnach Glic]

Alright, then.

So if the new E is 1 km long, does this mean that the E-E would be 16 km long?

No idea. As far as we know, the E-E doesn't exist in this reality.

[stitch626]

Alright, then.

So if the new E is 1 km long, does this mean that the E-E would be 16 km long?

No idea. As far as we know, the E-E doesn't exist in this reality.

Not yet.
Unfortunately, we don't know how extensive the changes to the timeline would be.

[Graham Kennedy]

There's a ton of similarities between the new Trek and the Wars movies.

Opens with a smaller spacecraft in battle with a vastly larger more powerful one
Young man, a farmboy who lives with a stepfather he doesn't get on with
Meets an old mentor figure who knows of his father
They go to a spaceport
There's a bar with aliens
The young man is offered the chance of adventure. Thinks about it over a "stare off into the distance" moment of silence.
The enemy supership can destroy planets
The young man joins up in the noble cause, boards the enemy supership to rescue somebody
The young man leads forces into battle against the enemy and ultimately destroys it
The film ends with an awards ceremony where the young man gets a medal

[LaughingCheese]

Alright, then.

So if the new E is 1 km long, does this mean that the E-E would be 16 km long?

No idea. As far as we know, the E-E doesn't exist in this reality.

Well not yet, or not at all...

There's a ton of similarities between the new Trek and the Wars movies.

Opens with a smaller spacecraft in battle with a vastly larger more powerful one
Young man, a farmboy who lives with a stepfather he doesn't get on with
Meets an old mentor figure who knows of his father
They go to a spaceport
There's a bar with aliens
The young man is offered the chance of adventure. Thinks about it over a "stare off into the distance" moment of silence.
The enemy supership can destroy planets
The young man joins up in the noble cause, boards the enemy supership to rescue somebody
The young man leads forces into battle against the enemy and ultimately destroys it
The film ends with an awards ceremony where the young man gets a medal

ZARRGGGG!!!! GREAT SCOTT JIM!!!!

I was going to make a thread like this; I've been thinking lately how Abrams has always said he's more of a Wars fan than a Trek fan, and only recently became a fan or some such.

So does this mean, that we have a Warsie directing a Trek movie?!?!!?!?!?!?

[Mark]

Well, actually..................................


But you know what? I DON'T CARE!!!!!!!!!!!!

The movie rocked. My next time around, I'll start looking for some nits and stuff.

[LaughingCheese]

Well, actually..................................


But you know what? I DON'T CARE!!!!!!!!!!!!

The movie rocked. My next time around, I'll start looking for some nits and stuff.

It did, but I still can't get over the MASSIVE cosmological flaws. Its almost inexcusable.

Oh, and at least the universe doesn't spin after they warp!!