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Re: Ciaphas Cain, Hero of The Imperium
Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 10:37 pm
by Aaron
Jabber Swarky wrote:Heyheyhey, crappy? >:( Steady on there mate. I think the 40K Cannon is one of the most fantastic i've ever seen, its just so diverse. I mean, yeah, theres a lot of it and, yeah, a lot of it is different, but.. its an entire GALAXY. You cant really expect every single thing to be identicle on every one of the trillion trillion worlds in this big ole starcluster we call home.
Perhaps I should say poorly enforced. Everything in WH40K is canon, though the novels are the highest if I understand GW correctly.
And, meh, maybe theres different versions of Plasma Power and Promethium that have benefits and drawbacks.. maybe liquid plasma is stabler for longer so it has a mildly longer range or something but is more expensive to refine. It wouldnt come up in the rules, but it could easily be bunged into the cannon and hope no-one really notices, and different regimental leaders all have different tastes.
No I mean that in
The Soul Drinkers Omnibus the plasma guns literally fire
liquid fire. Which is the only reference I've seen to that and the total opposite of what they usually do.
Or, you know, maybe you guys should stop nitpicking and enjoy the books =p
I could...hows that work again?
Re: Ciaphas Cain, Hero of The Imperium
Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 4:15 pm
by Deepcrush
The Books are the highest cannon and because of the scale of the universe there can always be recon without harming the over all story.
AKA
My plasma gun doesn't have to work the same as your plasma gun.
Re: Ciaphas Cain, Hero of The Imperium
Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 6:18 pm
by Aaron
Deepcrush wrote:The Books are the highest cannon and because of the scale of the universe there can always be recon without harming the over all story.
AKA
My plasma gun doesn't have to work the same as your plasma gun.
I know, it's just irksome.
Re: Ciaphas Cain, Hero of The Imperium
Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 12:38 pm
by Sionnach Glic
The shheer variety of te Imperium is eough to excuse a lot of the contradictions for me.
I'm just afterr reading the latest Cain book Duty Calls, pretty good.
Re: Ciaphas Cain, Hero of The Imperium
Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 2:43 pm
by Mikey
Hell, in Brothers of the Snake, a plasma gun took out a rockcrete city friggin' wall.
Re: Ciaphas Cain, Hero of The Imperium
Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 3:07 pm
by Aaron
Mikey wrote:Hell, in Brothers of the Snake, a plasma gun took out a rockcrete city friggin' wall.
Compacted rock shards actually:
Brothers Of The Snake pg.115 wrote:
There was indeed something. Priad switched the overlay back and forth, matching and rematching. According to the old charts, there was a section of the east wall built of compacted rock shards rather than ferro-concrete as an expediancy during construction.
Still impressive and IIRC Jurgen blasts a hole through an actual rockcrete tunnel wall in
For The Emperor with his meltagun. And IG melta's are quite a bit weaker than those used by the SM's.
Re: Ciaphas Cain, Hero of The Imperium
Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:12 pm
by Mikey
Thanks for the clarification. And I guess, to be fair, it took three or four shots.
BTW, who wrote the Cain series - was it McNeill? I'll be at the library tomorrow.
Re: Ciaphas Cain, Hero of The Imperium
Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:32 pm
by Aaron
Mikey wrote:Thanks for the clarification. And I guess, to be fair, it took three or four shots.
BTW, who wrote the Cain series - was it McNeill? I'll be at the library tomorrow.
Sandy Mitchell is the name he publishes under, he also wrote
Scourge The Heretic. Which is the Dark Heresy RPG tie in novel, it's excellent and I highly recommend it.
Re: Ciaphas Cain, Hero of The Imperium
Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:48 pm
by Mikey
Wait - Sandy Mitchell and Graham MacNeill are the same person, or was I just dead wrong about who wrote the Cain series?
Re: Ciaphas Cain, Hero of The Imperium
Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 7:14 pm
by Aaron
Mikey wrote:Wait - Sandy Mitchell and Graham MacNeill are the same person, or was I just dead wrong about who wrote the Cain series?
Yeah, your wrong. McNeil wrote the
The Ultramarines Omnibus and
Fulgrim, neither of which seem highly regarded by fans. Though
Fulgrim was so over the top that I loved it.
Re: Ciaphas Cain, Hero of The Imperium
Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 5:08 pm
by Sionnach Glic
Mikey: The Cain books are written under the name of Sandy Mitchell, which is an alias of Alex Stewart.
Re: Ciaphas Cain, Hero of The Imperium
Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 9:15 pm
by Mikey
Thanks, but my backwards piney library has none of 'em. Borders, here I come.
Re: Ciaphas Cain, Hero of The Imperium
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 6:01 am
by Aaron
Mikey wrote:Thanks, but my backwards piney library has none of 'em. Borders, here I come.
Yeah, the only sci-fi in my local library is 20 year old Trek novels. I like to buy these books anyways, make good references for fanfiction.
Re: Ciaphas Cain, Hero of The Imperium
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 1:51 pm
by Sionnach Glic
My libraries don't have them either, for some reason.
Re: Ciaphas Cain, Hero of The Imperium
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 6:46 pm
by Mikey
My local public library has a total of three WH40k books and one WH book; lots of Zelazny, Heinlein, Silverberg, etc., and SW and ST books. However, they had four Gibson books, but NOT Neromancer!