Sonic Glitch wrote:I'll be honest, I really don't understand the whole "it's so difficult to use/the learning curve is huge" argument. I used the Beta on a non-touch PC, using the trackpad in place of fingers and it worked fine. It doesn't really strike me as anything outrageously different aside from the new UI screen ... from which you can get to your traditional desktop. Is the lack of a start button REALLY such an inconvenience that the entire software is worthless? (Tyyr this is not particularly directed at you, just a general musing).
Or is this an example of a generation gap and somehow since I am a member of a younger generation, it's easier for me to adapt to these newfangled technology things?
IanKennedy wrote:Sonic Glitch wrote:I'll be honest, I really don't understand the whole "it's so difficult to use/the learning curve is huge" argument. I used the Beta on a non-touch PC, using the trackpad in place of fingers and it worked fine. It doesn't really strike me as anything outrageously different aside from the new UI screen ... from which you can get to your traditional desktop. Is the lack of a start button REALLY such an inconvenience that the entire software is worthless? (Tyyr this is not particularly directed at you, just a general musing).
Yes, there's part of a traditional desktop, but not all of it. There's no start menu for example. Running Windows 8 on a virtual machine is a nightmare, the "put your mouse in the corner of the screen" thing is almost impossible (given the edge of the window isn't the edge of the screen).Or is this an example of a generation gap and somehow since I am a member of a younger generation, it's easier for me to adapt to these newfangled technology things?
I don't think so I think it's more of a tablet / desktop thing. People don't IMHO want to use their desktop like they use their tablet. They're not the same thing. It will be interesting to see just what happens with Windows 8. Microsoft has basically said "it's our way or the highway" with that start screen. I think that's a very brave thing to do as people can go to Unix for zero cost. To push them to learn something new on something as fundamental as the start menu is a dangerous choice.
Is the lack of a start button REALLY such an inconvenience that the entire software is worthless? (Tyyr this is not particularly directed at you, just a general musing).
Tyyr wrote:Is the lack of a start button REALLY such an inconvenience that the entire software is worthless? (Tyyr this is not particularly directed at you, just a general musing).
Why should I? Seriously, why? What does this change benefit me at all? What does Windows 8 do so much better than Windows 7 that I should spend the time and effort to learn an entirely new OS? Honestly, I really only went to Windows 7 because they dropped support for XP. "It boots faster." Big fucking deal, I reboot my computer once a week and once I put in my SSD I could give two fucks if it boots in 11 seconds instead of 15.
Windows 8 is a tablet UI being foisted on desktops. They are not the same thing. I do not want to use them the same way. Fuck Windows 8 on Desktops.
That said, I actually like it for tablets, then Microsoft went and priced the Surface through the fucking stratosphere and sold me a Nexus 7.
What I am trying to get at is that there seems to be a general atmosphere of 'How dare Microsoft issue this new software with these changes that I don't like! It's the most inconvenient/horrible thing since [insert your own here]." No one is forcing anybody to upgrade and you are perfectly free to ignore it if you wish. That is what I don't get (in general).
I am intrigued however, by the idea of a unified operating system across platforms (with the possible exception of WindowsRT if I understand the difference between the 2 correctly).
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