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Re: Season 1

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 10:41 pm
by Reliant121
....Pass comment.

Re: Season 1

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 2:55 am
by Graham Kennedy
Mark wrote:I wonder why they started to phase out the type 1. In TNG season one they seemed to be standard issue for all senior officers and bridge crew. And that would actually make sense in a universe where bad things happen damned quick.
Reportedly, they were so small that the cameras had a hard time telling that they were there at all. Unless the actors more or less held the thing between thumb and forefinger, it looked like they were just firing phaser beams out of their hands.

Within universe, I wonder just how easy it would be to end up phasering the end of your fingers off firing something that small.

Re: Season 1

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 7:50 am
by kostmayer
Or blasting a hole in your TV cause you mistook it for the remote.

Re: Season 1

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 1:43 pm
by Tyyr
You're reaching a point, both with the PPG's and the Type 1 phasers where you can't really make the item smaller, not and still be useful. You really need something pistol sized for a personal weapon.

Re: Season 1

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 4:47 pm
by Tsukiyumi
I actually sort of liked the rifles in "In The Beginning." They never showed them again, but they were pretty cool (if not terribly ergonomic).

Re: Season 1

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 8:10 pm
by Deepcrush
They were fraking hand cannons. However, I liked the later PPG rifles. Small, light and rather powerful since I saw them hit people and send then tubbling backwards.

Re: Season 1

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 1:31 pm
by Sionnach Glic
Tyyr wrote:You're reaching a point, both with the PPG's and the Type 1 phasers where you can't really make the item smaller, not and still be useful. You really need something pistol sized for a personal weapon.
Indeed. Certain things simply can't be miniturised without degrading its performance, regardless of how advanced the device in question may be. Weapons are one of these things. Honestly, it actually says quite a lot about how well trained most Starfleet officers are in the use of the Type 1 and 2 phasers that they can even come close to hitting a target.

Re: Season 1

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 8:09 pm
by Graham Kennedy
Well it helps... or hurts... that the beam often comes out in a fairly random direction...

Re: Season 1

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 8:16 pm
by Tyyr
It only comes out in a family friendly direction.

Image

Can't have Riker shooting women in the face.

Re: Season 1

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 8:34 pm
by Tsukiyumi
Someone should Photoshop that, and angle the beam where he's actually aiming. :lol:

Re: Season 1

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 9:13 pm
by kostmayer
Blatant sexism.

They were perfectly happy to show Remmicks head disintegrating in explicit detail - but the pretty blonde, no.

Riker must have been cursing it - aims at her face at it hits her in the stomach. For shame.

Re: Season 1

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 1:30 am
by Mark
Didn't Europe edit Remmicks head exploding scene before it aired????

Maybe they avoided it for just that reason.

Re: Season 1

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 8:20 am
by Reliant121
I did a quick look with some rulers and a rough guestimate of trajectory and it struck somewhere around the mid neck region.

Re: Season 1

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 1:40 pm
by Tsukiyumi
kostmayer wrote:...aims at her face at it hits her in the stomach. For shame.
Yeah, that's always a surprise.

Re: Season 1

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 3:38 pm
by Lighthawk
Tsukiyumi wrote:
kostmayer wrote:...aims at her face at it hits her in the stomach. For shame.
Yeah, that's always a surprise.
Or a disappointment