The best thing that could be done for B5

Re: The best thing that could be done for B5

Postby Graham Kennedy » Tue Nov 04, 2008 7:32 pm

One thing I think B5 did fall down on was that while its main characters were excellent, a lot of the minor ones were truly awful. It was quite jarring when it happened, but sometimes there'd be a one off baddie of the week or whatever who would be utterly cliche, spouting horrible dialogue, horribly delivered.
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Re: The best thing that could be done for B5

Postby Deepcrush » Tue Nov 04, 2008 7:36 pm

Well, not a shock really. You have a show built on long running plays and then have a random one show guy.
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Re: The best thing that could be done for B5

Postby Chris Propst » Tue Nov 04, 2008 7:57 pm

GrahamKennedy wrote:One thing I think B5 did fall down on was that while its main characters were excellent, a lot of the minor ones were truly awful. It was quite jarring when it happened, but sometimes there'd be a one off baddie of the week or whatever who would be utterly cliche, spouting horrible dialogue, horribly delivered.

That's true. While Londo and G'Kar were incredibly well-acted, IMO, some people like the telepaths, for example, were really abysmal characters. Plus, Bruce Boxleitner was not exactly the greatest of actors either.
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Re: The best thing that could be done for B5

Postby Deepcrush » Tue Nov 04, 2008 8:04 pm

No Bruce left some things at the door, but he wasnt' bad and he carried the role well. Besides, look who he was up against on that show! He was doomed from the start to be in the second row.
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Re: The best thing that could be done for B5

Postby Chris Propst » Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:38 am

Good point. And also, even though I LOVED the way JMS handled the unplanned casting changes and the "One who was, one who is, one who will be" thing from War Without End is really cool, I always sort sort of wished that Sinclair could have remained in command and eventually have had to travel back in time as Valen and leave Delenn. (This is what I always assumed JMS was planning on doing.)
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Re: The best thing that could be done for B5

Postby Deepcrush » Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:51 am

His plan wasn't any different from how the show went. Though, Sinclair was supposed to remain a lead character.
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Re: The best thing that could be done for B5

Postby Nutso » Wed Nov 05, 2008 5:53 am

Chris Propst wrote:
GrahamKennedy wrote:One thing I think B5 did fall down on was that while its main characters were excellent, a lot of the minor ones were truly awful. It was quite jarring when it happened, but sometimes there'd be a one off baddie of the week or whatever who would be utterly cliche, spouting horrible dialogue, horribly delivered.

That's true. While Londo and G'Kar were incredibly well-acted, IMO, some people like the telepaths, for example, were really abysmal characters. Plus, Bruce Boxleitner was not exactly the greatest of actors either.

I agree. Boxleitner wasn't the strongest of actors, but Andreas Katsulas and Peter Jurasik were excellent at their roles. Those two characters had one of the show's strongest story arcs and the actors always delivered. Mira Furlan as Delenn was great as well. She could be gentle or fierce.
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Re: The best thing that could be done for B5

Postby Reliant121 » Sat Nov 08, 2008 3:06 pm

I think most of the caste were pretty good to be honest. Boxleitner was weak, i will admit, and I personally dislike the character. Sinclair will always have my vote as better commander. But Claudia Christian was excellent in her role, as were Jurasik and Katsulas. Furlan was probably my favourite character he ability to vary her tone and actions. Richard Biggs played Franklin very well too.
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Re: The best thing that could be done for B5

Postby Chris Propst » Wed Dec 24, 2008 8:56 pm

Deepcrush wrote:His plan wasn't any different from how the show went. Though, Sinclair was supposed to remain a lead character.

Right - but Sinclair's departure created the need to split the protagonist between Sinclair and Sheridan. You can see his plans being laid for Sinclair's character before they got interrupted.

Catherine Sakai's disappearance - Necessity for Sinclair to go to Z'ha'dum as Sheridan eventually ended up doing.

Development of relationship with Delenn - Sinclair was probably meant to fall in love with Delenn, eventually find out he was ( :shock: ) her ancestor, and eventually leave her in a painful departure at the end of the series. Sheridan did this, of course, to go depart and live with the big boy aliens, whereas Sinclair would have left afer the Shadow War to travel back in time and become Valen.

I mean, I could be wrong, but I remember reading something which suggested that from the beginning (The Gathering and maybe, like, the first half of season one) Sinclair was meant to stay the whole time and eventually do all the things Sheridan did, but then by the time of Babylon Squared he was pretty sure he'd be leaving and he used one of his most important backup trap doors.

I think this was one of the best examples ever of making the best of an unplanned situation.
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Re: The best thing that could be done for B5

Postby Lemon Wolf » Sun Feb 08, 2009 3:08 pm

Sorry for necroposting on this thread but the thread really fits into what i am doing in my spare time at the moment.
I thought about a remake of the B5 effects myself and started working on some animations and shots myself with models that are freely available on the net.
Edit: The pictures are somewhat cut :? I guess you need to save them on your disk to watch them fully.

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This is a purely fan thing of course so dont expect too much :)
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Re: The best thing that could be done for B5

Postby Sionnach Glic » Sun Feb 08, 2009 3:38 pm

Wow! That's very impressive. :shock:
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Re: The best thing that could be done for B5

Postby kostmayer » Sun Feb 08, 2009 3:51 pm

Great work. I especialy like the last one.
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Re: The best thing that could be done for B5

Postby Tsukiyumi » Sun Feb 08, 2009 5:42 pm

Very nice. :) What program did you use for those, Lemon Wolf?
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Re: The best thing that could be done for B5

Postby Lemon Wolf » Sun Feb 08, 2009 6:29 pm

Thx :)

I am using Lightwave 3D (which was also used in the B5 Production) and After Effects.
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Re: The best thing that could be done for B5

Postby Deepcrush » Sun Feb 08, 2009 6:55 pm

Lemon Wolf, are you a member of the B5tech forum?
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