Any interest in a large scale Trek sim?

Any interest in a large scale Trek sim?

Postby BigJKU316 » Sat Jan 16, 2010 3:38 pm

One of the things I did back in my college days was intern with a group that ran large scale wargames/political simulations for the Pentagon. I am curious if anyone would have interest in doing that with the star trek universe. Essentially we are talking about a play by email type situation that is very much driven by the use of an excel spreadsheet I would adapt and revise from other era games I have run/participated in.

Essentially each player or group of players is handed the keys to a major empire at the time we choose and basically within the limits of their respective empire told to make what they can of it (ie if you are the Fed President and order Starfleet to use trilithum torpedoes to destroy the Breen without provocation the council would likely revoke that order). For some of the larger powers it would probably make sense to divide the duties.

The game is not so much combat oriented as it is about alliances, trade and ship construction. Simple time constraints will limit battles to basically a tallying of fleet strength avaliable in that sector and a few dice rolls based on whatever brilliant orders you might have come up with that could modify things a bit in either direction.

My inclination would be to start at the data for which ship data for this website is considered from in Trek, have an accellerated buildout period (10 game years or so) where players basically work on their economy and fleets to put some differentiation into the simulation from what we have already seen in Trek to let each player sort of put their stamp on things.

Essentially you would control the economy and trade, ship design and building, fleet deployments and diplomacy. For the sake of simplicity there would be no colonization as doing it right would necessitate a whole set of its own rules and expenses that just won't add much unless the game goes on for 100 years.

Off the top of my head we would at a bare minimum need a player for the Federation, Klingons, Romulans and Breen. Having a Cardassian and Ferengi player would really add a lot to it I think as well. I am open to adding the Tholians and Gorn but we would all have to agree on just where they stand vs the other powers since cannon info is a bit fuzzy there. Adding other powers, including the Dominion I suppose, is always possible but I would prefer to fill the other roles first.
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Re: Any interest in a large scale Trek sim?

Postby Tsukiyumi » Sat Jan 16, 2010 5:56 pm

Sounds interesting. Would this be possible to play on the forum, or would it have to be via e-mail?

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Re: Any interest in a large scale Trek sim?

Postby BigJKU316 » Sat Jan 16, 2010 6:07 pm

Tsukiyumi wrote:Sounds interesting. Would this be possible to play on the forum, or would it have to be via e-mail?

EDIT: YAY! Evil post count! :lol:


Forum works for everything but orders. Generally the format I am comfortable with has two reports each turn. A general, newslike update for everyone that is sort of a galactic news service and then player specific reports on stuff others do not need.

Diplomacy and what not can be conducted on the forum if it is public consumption type stuff as well. Forums are good places to make threats.
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Re: Any interest in a large scale Trek sim?

Postby Tsukiyumi » Sat Jan 16, 2010 6:40 pm

Orders and such could be handled via PM, yes? It's sort of our built-in email system. :)
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Re: Any interest in a large scale Trek sim?

Postby BigJKU316 » Sat Jan 16, 2010 9:49 pm

Tsukiyumi wrote:Orders and such could be handled via PM, yes? It's sort of our built-in email system. :)


Probably everything but the spreadsheets, unless you can send an attachment through here. But one can set up a file warehouse for that as well.
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Re: Any interest in a large scale Trek sim?

Postby Tsukiyumi » Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:49 pm

Ah. I see. I'm no good with spreadsheets, I'm afraid. :doh:
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Re: Any interest in a large scale Trek sim?

Postby BigJKU316 » Sun Jan 17, 2010 2:02 am

Tsukiyumi wrote:Ah. I see. I'm no good with spreadsheets, I'm afraid. :doh:


It is actually quite easy. 95% is already done for you.
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Re: Any interest in a large scale Trek sim?

Postby Mikey » Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:06 pm

I'm intrigued, but I'm concerned about time constraints forcing me to hold things up.
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Re: Any interest in a large scale Trek sim?

Postby stitch626 » Sun Jan 17, 2010 6:27 pm

Other than time, this could prove interesting.
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Re: Any interest in a large scale Trek sim?

Postby BigJKU316 » Sun Jan 17, 2010 6:30 pm

Mikey wrote:I'm intrigued, but I'm concerned about time constraints forcing me to hold things up.


Generally I would advise you either try a team or smaller power. Really, it takes as much or as little time as you want depending on just how much diplomatic/military stuff is going on. Needless to say the Federation player will likely be busier than say someone playing the insular Breen.

My estimate of the time involved after you do your initial setup is less than 20-30 minutes a week at most to do the bare minimum. Now you could invest more if you are doing a lot of stuff with other players (or are just one of those people who feel compelled to name every ship in your fleet just because you are that into it), but overall it is designed to be as easy as possible to do.
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Re: Any interest in a large scale Trek sim?

Postby stitch626 » Sun Jan 17, 2010 6:36 pm

(or are just one of those people who feel compelled to name every ship in your fleet just because you are that into it)


That would be me... :oops:
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Re: Any interest in a large scale Trek sim?

Postby BigJKU316 » Sun Jan 17, 2010 6:43 pm

stitch626 wrote:
(or are just one of those people who feel compelled to name every ship in your fleet just because you are that into it)


That would be me... :oops:


Me too. Somewhere in my various HD's I have a fully named and organized US fleet, with 1st and 2nd officers of each, built in a 10 year simulation for the post WWI period. That was a few hundred ships. Since Starfleet is like 6 or 7,000 ships I am not sure where to even start. Plus it takes a ton of effort to do the names right (ie look up things from cultures other than Earth) after which to name ships.
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Re: Any interest in a large scale Trek sim?

Postby Lt. Staplic » Sun Jan 17, 2010 11:39 pm

i'd be interested
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Re: Any interest in a large scale Trek sim?

Postby BigJKU316 » Mon Jan 18, 2010 2:13 am

Lt. Staplic wrote:i'd be interested


Well, it sounds like there are a few interested, if you know more on this site or elsewhere let them know and we can start placing some teams and discussing a few of the setup conditions. I have Monday off so I will post a synopsis of the setup and turn system for everyone.
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Re: Any interest in a large scale Trek sim?

Postby Nickswitz » Mon Jan 18, 2010 2:24 am

I think I may be interested as well.
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