Reliant121 wrote:@McAvoy: On the above note of nuclear/non nuclear submarines, I know for a fact that they must be used for different purposes. A navy that goes on long deployments naturally uses a nuclear submarine because of its insane strategic range and its increased power while underwater; Thats why the USN/RN etc. use them. But for smaller coastal work or for defensive purposes diesel electric are ideal. They are much much MUCH quieter: Nuclear power requires an awful lot of pumping which of course produces the vibrations. Not only that but travelling at any form of speed underwater is pointless because of cavitation of the screws. A diesel electric is virtually silent beneath the waves, much more so than a nuclear ship.
in short: Nuclear = Long range, fast and easy to fuel
Diesel-electric: MUCH quieter and therefore more combat effective. Just can't get very far.
Having met a very old helmsman of subs who was the helmsman of one of the RN's last diesel electrics before taking on one of the earlier nuclear subs, he would definitely take the diesel-electric. As would a lot of submariners. Yeah, they can't get that far but they do a far better job of keeping the crew alive.
Interesting. Thanks. To be honest my area of interest has only been 1960's and before that. Mainly cruisers and carriers, so my knowledge of subs are sketchy at best.
I learnt it all from my old man who was on a ship designed specifically to chase the little blighters. The HMS Campbeltown
, being a type-22, spent most of its time practicing hunting either Norwegian, German, RN or American subs when not playing chicken with Libyan missile boats in the 1st gulf war (the American subs being easiest to find, so I've heard, with the RN ones being very close second).
The diesel electric sonar boys were creepy. Nuclear ships always have a teensy bit of interference on the sonar from their own pumps systems; only very very VERY slight but its there. The diesel electric ones get picture perfect noises. They were very quick to remind crewmen on the Campbeltown that anyone in the ocean knows where she is; one of the turbines is ever so slightly out of alignment and so it fires slightly out of time with the other making a very distinctive ba-dum ba-dum on sonar vibrations. It's quite scary, from what I understand, everyone knowing who you are.
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