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Life On Mars

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 1:29 pm
by thelordharry
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Any volunteers out there? :) We had this conversation at some point last year I think but it seems to have moved on a bit since then. How would humans survive on another planet like Mars? The logistics are mind-blowing....
It sounds like a sci-fi movie but within 20 years humans could be sent to Mars to try to colonise the planet - without the chance of ever returning home. S
The idea is being investigated by Nasa as it looks at whether astronauts could be flown to the red planet, or its moons, with a view to staying there permanently.

The multi-billion pound project, called Hundred Year Starship, is being led by Nasa's Ames Research Centre, based in California.

It is estimated the cost of such a mission to the red planet could be more than £7bn and may be achieved by 2030.

The Pentagon has already contributed around £600,000 towards the plan and Nasa has put in another £60,000.

But Ames director Pete Worden is hoping for more cash and is trying to attract the world's billionaires to the project.

Among those who have been asked is Google co-founder Larry Page.

Mr Worden said: "We hope to inveigle some billionaires to form a Hundred Year Starship fund.

"The human space programme is now really aimed at settling other worlds. Twenty years ago you had to whisper that in dark bars and get fired.

He added: "Within a few years we will see the first true prototype of a spaceship that will take us between worlds."

Mr Worden said Mr Page had shown interest in the project.

"Larry asked me a couple weeks ago how much it would cost to send people one way to Mars and I told him $10bn (£6.3bn) and his response was: 'Can you get it down to one or two billion?'

"So now we're starting to get a little argument over the price."

Researchers have claimed such a human mission is technologically feasible and would be cheaper than returning astronauts to earth.

Their new study, in the Journal of Cosmology, found the costs of safely returning a crew would take up the majority of such a mission's budget.

Dirk Schulze-Makuch, an associate professor from Washington State University and Paul Davies, a physicist and cosmologist from Arizona State University, said four volunteer astronauts could undertake the first mission to permanently colonise Mars.

They said: "We envision that Mars exploration would begin and proceed for a long time on the basis of outbound journeys only."

They also said a mission to Mars could exploit hardware technologies developed for the Moon programme.

"One approach could be to send four astronauts initially, two on each of two spacecraft, each with a lander and sufficient supplies, to stake a single outpost on Mars.

"A one-way human mission to Mars would be the first step in establishing a permanent human presence on the planet."

Some experts say the price of sending 20 Mars settlers with a one-way ticket would be equal to bringing four astronauts back.

Re: Life On Mars

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:24 pm
by Mikey
If this ins't typical of the human condition, I don't know what its. We're talking about colonizing another planet, and where's the sticky point in the conversation? Haggling over the price.

Re: Life On Mars

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:29 pm
by thelordharry
Mikey wrote:If this ins't typical of the human condition, I don't know what its. We're talking about colonizing another planet, and where's the sticky point in the conversation? Haggling over the price.
Where's the Grand Negus when we need him? :)

Re: Life On Mars

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:35 pm
by Mikey
thelordharry wrote:
Mikey wrote:If this ins't typical of the human condition, I don't know what its. We're talking about colonizing another planet, and where's the sticky point in the conversation? Haggling over the price.
Where's the Grand Negus when we need him? :)
AFAIK, Richard Branson is still somewhere in England. :P

Re: Life On Mars

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:53 pm
by thelordharry
With a bit of luck, that grinning t**t will be one of the first colonists :)

Re: Life On Mars

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 4:23 pm
by Tyyr
If I wasn't married with kids I'd volunteer in a heartbeat.

Re: Life On Mars

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 5:22 pm
by Mikey
Intereseting. Some folks might say
Tyyr wrote:Because I'm married with kids I'd volunteer in a heartbeat.

Re: Life On Mars

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 5:32 pm
by Tyyr
Well see, I made sure I liked the person I married and I don't let my kids run all over me so I'm good.

Re: Life On Mars

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 6:00 pm
by thelordharry
I'd take them with me in case I need something to eat and the rations run out.

Re: Life On Mars

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 6:25 pm
by Mikey
Tyyr wrote:Well see, I made sure I liked the person I married and I don't let my kids run all over me so I'm good.
I'm in the same boat. It just seems that many married men didn't take the precaution of actually considering the woman that they married.

Re: Life On Mars

Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 9:07 pm
by Foxfyre
thelordharry wrote:I'd take them with me in case I need something to eat and the rations run out.
I recomend you take them to McDonalds a few times before you go.

Re: Life On Mars

Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 9:09 pm
by Mikey
Foxfyre wrote:
thelordharry wrote:I'd take them with me in case I need something to eat and the rations run out.
I recomend you take them to McDonalds a few times before you go.
Meh. He's English. Even they were nothing but bones and blood, he'd still be able to make a black pudding and some stock.

Re: Life On Mars

Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 11:02 pm
by thelordharry
I could live for a year on my Mrs!

I thank you, I thank YOU!