The World Of 2060

Re: The World Of 2060

Postby Vic » Sat Feb 27, 2010 11:46 am

I find myself much in the same boat as Kendall although I attribute that to beginning life during the infancy of computer technology. Computers are nice but not necessary for my life to be happy, my phone is always with me more as a safety thing than a allways connected thing.
God is great, beer is good, and people are crazy.
.................................................Billy Currington
Vic
Lieutenant Commander
Lieutenant Commander
 
Posts: 1079
Joined: Thu May 28, 2009 11:20 am
Location: Tucson Az

Re: The World Of 2060

Postby Aaron » Sat Feb 27, 2010 11:57 am

Yeah, PC's didn't start to become truly widespread until I was already an adult.
User avatar
Aaron
3 Star Admiral
3 Star Admiral
 
Posts: 10988
Joined: Thu Aug 23, 2007 9:01 pm
Location: Timepire Mobile Command Centre

Re: The World Of 2060

Postby Reliant121 » Sat Feb 27, 2010 12:10 pm

Where as one of my first memories is playing with a computer when I was 3.
"He was the best of us. They struck without provocation, there was no reason. Animals! Brutal! They deserve no mercy! Strike them down, follow them back to their base and kill all of them, all of them! No mercy!" - Delenn
User avatar
Reliant121
3 Star Admiral
3 Star Admiral
 
Posts: 12098
Joined: Thu Jul 26, 2007 4:00 pm
Location: Hampshire, UK

Re: The World Of 2060

Postby Mikey » Sat Feb 27, 2010 12:56 pm

I'm in the same range as Kendall. I don't mind the idea of constant access, but the idea of that continuous exposure worries me both for the possibility of generating an addictive syndrome and for the possibility of governmental/corporate abuse.
"We've been over this. We don't shoot first and ask questions later."
"Of course! We never ask questions."
User avatar
Mikey
Fleet Admiral
Fleet Admiral
 
Posts: 33311
Joined: Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:04 am
Location: down the shore, New Jersey, USA

Re: The World Of 2060

Postby Graham Kennedy » Sun Feb 28, 2010 6:03 pm

The big early 1980s home PC boom hit just as I was in school. Ian was in charge of the computer club, and knew more about them than anybody else in the whole school. For me, aged 12, computers were like the most wonderful new toy in all of history. Can't say I've greatly changed my mind ever since. Being offline for me would be like losing a leg.
Give a man a fire, and you keep him warm for a day. SET a man on fire, and you will keep him warm for the rest of his life...
User avatar
Graham Kennedy
Site Admin
Site Admin
 
Posts: 8387
Joined: Mon Jul 09, 2007 1:28 pm
Location: Banbury, UK

Re: The World Of 2060

Postby RK_Striker_JK_5 » Tue Mar 02, 2010 1:26 am

Sonic Glitch wrote:Is it weird that as a member of this technologically focused generation, I'd prefer not to be as connected as we are, and that the thought of even more connection between us worries me?


You're not the only one. I didn't get online until 1999 or so. I might go through, for lack of a better term, withdrawal from it if the internet failed tomorrow. But I could get by.
User avatar
RK_Striker_JK_5
2 Star Admiral
2 Star Admiral
 
Posts: 9277
Joined: Wed Jul 25, 2007 4:27 am
Location: New Hampshire

Re: The World Of 2060

Postby Nickswitz » Tue Mar 02, 2010 2:02 am

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:
Sonic Glitch wrote:Is it weird that as a member of this technologically focused generation, I'd prefer not to be as connected as we are, and that the thought of even more connection between us worries me?


You're not the only one. I didn't get online until 1999 or so. I might go through, for lack of a better term, withdrawal from it if the internet failed tomorrow. But I could get by.


I have used it thoroughly since about the same time, but my dad has indoctrinated technology into me, it's part of me, I couldn't live without it.

The blackout was like hell for me, no internet for 3 days... :shock:
The world ended

"Insanity -- a perfectly rational adjustment to an insane world" - R.D.Lang
User avatar
Nickswitz
Rear Admiral
Rear Admiral
 
Posts: 6747
Joined: Sun May 25, 2008 4:34 pm
Location: Home

Re: The World Of 2060

Postby Tsukiyumi » Tue Mar 02, 2010 2:07 am

Nickswitz wrote:...The blackout was like hell for me, no internet for 3 days... :shock:


Try 52 days (no computer at all). :wink:








Seriously, don't...
There is only one way of avoiding the war – that is the overthrow of this society. However, as we are too weak for this task, the war is inevitable. -L. Trotsky, 1939
User avatar
Tsukiyumi
4 Star Admiral
4 Star Admiral
 
Posts: 21727
Joined: Fri Oct 12, 2007 1:38 pm
Location: Forward Torpedo Tube Twenty. Help!

Re: The World Of 2060

Postby stitch626 » Tue Mar 02, 2010 7:22 pm

There's only one part of Graham's idea I don't think is likely...
We'll have solved world hunger, or will be well on the way towards doing so.

The only reason we have hunger in this world is greed. And I don't think greed can be weeded out of humanity in only 50 years. At least not without something major and destructive happening.
No trees were killed in transmission of this message. However, some electrons were mildly inconvenienced.
User avatar
stitch626
2 Star Admiral
2 Star Admiral
 
Posts: 9523
Joined: Sat Mar 01, 2008 10:57 pm
Location: Romulus

Re: The World Of 2060

Postby Tsukiyumi » Tue Mar 02, 2010 7:28 pm

stitch626 wrote:The only reason we have hunger in this world is greed. And I don't think greed can be weeded out of humanity in only 50 years. At least not without something major and destructive happening.


Agreed.
There is only one way of avoiding the war – that is the overthrow of this society. However, as we are too weak for this task, the war is inevitable. -L. Trotsky, 1939
User avatar
Tsukiyumi
4 Star Admiral
4 Star Admiral
 
Posts: 21727
Joined: Fri Oct 12, 2007 1:38 pm
Location: Forward Torpedo Tube Twenty. Help!

Re: The World Of 2060

Postby Captain Seafort » Tue Mar 02, 2010 7:29 pm

If something "major and destructive" happens, I reckon greed is far more likely to increase than decrease - people will look out for themselves, their families and their friends (not necessarily in that precise order) long before they start giving a shit about the rest of the human race.
Only two things are infinite - the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the universe: Albert Einstein.

Across the Universe - Chapter 2 now up
User avatar
Captain Seafort
4 Star Admiral
4 Star Admiral
 
Posts: 15050
Joined: Thu Jul 19, 2007 12:44 pm
Location: Blighty

Re: The World Of 2060

Postby stitch626 » Tue Mar 02, 2010 7:47 pm

Captain Seafort wrote:If something "major and destructive" happens, I reckon greed is far more likely to increase than decrease - people will look out for themselves, their families and their friends (not necessarily in that precise order) long before they start giving a s**t about the rest of the human race.

Exactly. Then everyone dies, at which point greed will have been wiped from humanity...

Hmmm, doesn't work nicely though.
No trees were killed in transmission of this message. However, some electrons were mildly inconvenienced.
User avatar
stitch626
2 Star Admiral
2 Star Admiral
 
Posts: 9523
Joined: Sat Mar 01, 2008 10:57 pm
Location: Romulus

Re: The World Of 2060

Postby Sionnach Glic » Tue Mar 02, 2010 7:49 pm

People would still survive. It'd be a hellhole of a planet, but we'd survive nonetheless. We humans are a pretty adaptable breed.
"You've all been selected for this mission because you each have a special skill. Professor Hawking, John Leslie, Phil Neville, the Wu-Tang Clan, Usher, the Sugar Puffs Monster and Daniel Day-Lewis! Welcome to Operation MindFuck!"
User avatar
Sionnach Glic
4 Star Admiral
4 Star Admiral
 
Posts: 26014
Joined: Fri Jul 13, 2007 9:58 pm
Location: Poblacht na hÉireann, Baile Átha Cliath

Re: The World Of 2060

Postby Graham Kennedy » Thu Mar 04, 2010 6:14 pm

"Hunger is caused by greed" is way too simplistic. I could as easily argue that there's a greed motivation to eliminate hunger. After all, I'm not suggesting that hunger will be solved by charitable giving, but rather by selling food, or the means to produce food, to the hungry people.

A vast swathe of the world lives in essentially the middle ages. Lifting them into the 21st century isn't just some sort of moral obligation on us; if it were I'd happily predict that it will never happen. But doing it will create vast new markets, enormous amounts of new wealth, new resources to exploit, all that good stuff. I'm not suggesting it will be easy, but although human history goes up and down in cycles, the general trend has always been upwards, for thousands of years, and I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest that this will continue.
Give a man a fire, and you keep him warm for a day. SET a man on fire, and you will keep him warm for the rest of his life...
User avatar
Graham Kennedy
Site Admin
Site Admin
 
Posts: 8387
Joined: Mon Jul 09, 2007 1:28 pm
Location: Banbury, UK

Re: The World Of 2060

Postby Tsukiyumi » Thu Mar 04, 2010 8:15 pm

Well, when you put it like that, I agree that it could happen.
There is only one way of avoiding the war – that is the overthrow of this society. However, as we are too weak for this task, the war is inevitable. -L. Trotsky, 1939
User avatar
Tsukiyumi
4 Star Admiral
4 Star Admiral
 
Posts: 21727
Joined: Fri Oct 12, 2007 1:38 pm
Location: Forward Torpedo Tube Twenty. Help!

PreviousNext

Return to Science, Philosophy and Theology

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest