IanKennedy wrote:You are missing a massive item. At the end of the film the Na'vi and the humans that are staying with them are in control of the compound.
Are they going to stay
there, however? I imagine that the Na'vi would return to their jungle settlements. The scientists may decide to live there (do they have their own facility elsewhere, or were they always working out of the compound?), but they're of no real threat and can just be thrown out if they refuse to leave.
IanKennedy wrote:They have access to everything the humans have there.
Access to =/= ability to use.
IanKennedy wrote:Including the machine that builds all the human technology. It's an automated production facility. They have 9 months to do what they like with it
I think I pointed out the trouble with using the Replicator thing in the main Avatar thread. Put simply, it's effectively useless to them, even with the scientists around.
For a more in-depth reason, read on.
First, we're assuming that the scientsts that are loyal to the Na'vi actually know how to work the factory. This is most certainly not a given.
Secondly, this machine will require a power source. Do the scientists know how to properly operate and maintain this power source within safe limits? I have my doubts.
Thirdly, do the scientists know how to maintain the factory machinery itself? Again, I'm betting on no. Unless there happens to be a contingent of engineers amongst them, one broken screw means the entire thing stops.
Fourthly, this machine undoubtedly requires material to be input into it before it can build anything. The Na'vi have no mining system, and the human mines will have been abandoned. Again, I can't imagine these scientists being much use in running mines. As I doubt there are lumps of metal just lying around on the surface, the Na'vi would have nothing to use in the machine.
Fifthly, even if they do get it working (by no means a certainty), what do they get? Tanks, weapons and armour. All designed for use by a race half their size. Not a great help. The tanks and armour would be unusable, and I doubt the weapons would be much use either. They'd need to not only design new gear from scratch, but also figure out how to get the factory to start producing it. At best, they could arm their scientist companions. Not all that great an asset.
I'm sure that there are other problems, but those are the ones I can think of off the top of my head. Quite simply, the factory isn't going to be that much use to them.
IanKennedy wrote:Unless Jake and the other humans are complete morons you will not be able to even get into the compound when you arrive, let alone control who can and can't get into the facility. As I said if it were me I would mine the whole place so you couldn't even land without dying.
I have my doubts that they'd even do such a thing in the first place. They know that the humans are coming back. They'd also be idiots not to realise that there's a very good chance that they're coming back with some serious firepower and knowledge that all life must be considered hostile. If the first thing these humans experience upon landing on Pandora is one of their shuttles going down in flames, there's a very good chance that the Na'vi will be introduced to high-altitude carpet bombing. Perhaps even nuclear weapons. Sully and the other humans would be idiots not to know that. They'd undoubtedly realise that their only chance of survival would be trying to deal peacefully with the humans that come later. It's either that, or it turns into a war of attrition as the Na'vi attack every human ship to land, taking greater and greater losses each time as the humans bring more and heavier weapons with each arriving ship. It'd be a war that the Na'vi could never win, and Jake has to realise that. Unless he'd rather all life on Pandora die over the space of a few decades, he's going to be looking for other solutions. A military solution simply isn't possible.
IanKennedy wrote:Plus they have access to at least one satellite that can see the planet from above.
And I'm unable to just bump the satalite out of orbit?
IanKennedy wrote:Sure you could, with the appropriate equipment, launch an attack from orbit, but I think that's going to have to wait for a new ship directly sent from earth with that in mind.
I wouldn't need to attack from orbit. Just from high altitude. Since we have shuttles capable of reaching escape velocity, we already have that capability. Just load the shuttles full of explosives and carpet-bomb the area surrounding the compound. Preferably with something flammable that will start a nice big fire and spread.
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