Sionnach Glic wrote:Title edited to reflect that this is purely for cloaks seen in the visual medium.
To analyze and discuss Star Wars . . . not your imaginations, as I said. You are pretending as if the personal beliefs and preference about what Star Wars ought to be like -- the way Star Wars would be in your mind -- constitute some sort of Star Wars fact. It does not.
To actually discuss "the reasoning leading to your opinions", then we would operate based upon known canon (quantitatively or qualitatively) and from there ponder meaning . . . like discussing a lightsaber's cutting ability based on when it has or has not cut through things. From there we might develop some general concepts about lightsabers, and if we forgot some cutting event or saw some new one on TCW then we would discuss that and how it affects our notions.
However, what you are doing is arguing for the rejection of known canon. What the hell is that?
Why does every thread you are involved in result in you running off like a child?
That's hardly accurate. I have only left one thread, the last one in which you guys were demonstrably fallacious but in full dogpile mode. There was nothing to do but declare victory and leave.
But let's go ahead and review this recent history of which you speak, hmm?
The first thread involved a pleasant discussion, but ended because you came in spewing crap everywhere, and so I got on to you for bringing up personal attack nonsense, and then you declared yourself enraged and the thread got closed as a result. So you broke the thread. (And now you blame me. How ridiculous!)
I left the TOS Fleet thread after having personal attacks and insults and false declarations of error thrown my way all at once for no reason other than the fact that I disagreed, at which point I refused to back off my correct assessment of the fallacious argument of the other side. I had tried to agree to disagree peacefully but they'd have none of it, and some extra folks dogpiled. I continued to resist long enough to satisfy myself that nothing more was to be gained, and then had to simply declare victory. I'm pretty sure they're still bitchin' about me, but I left the thread so I don't know.
In this thread, someone decided to start talking about EU cloaks despite the reference to the fact that we've never seen cloaks in canon Star Wars before. Then, when I clarified that we were talking about the Lucas canon, the person tried to contest the idea of the canon policy as if I don't know what I'm talking about (and as if I don't have a link to a site called "CANONWARS.COM" in my freakin' signature).
Then after some useless messages people brought up a misremembering of Darth Maul's ship, and in reference to my reply Stitch (from the TOS Fleet thread) claimed I was being a jerk for answering a question. Then, even though the canon topic has been officially split off one guy tried to pick a fight on it, and then you and Stitch decided to try to come continue your argument of character stupidity from the TOS Fleet thread, and so here we are.
Maybe if the people from the TOS Fleet thread would knock it off, in other words, the threads might be more pleasant. Hold a grudge all you like, but if you want to speak about childish behavior you need only look to yourself.
"Wah, he wouldn't cave when we flamed him, so we can't let him have any fun here! Wahhh!" I mean, seriously, we're all arguing this stuff so we're all on the short bus, here, but you could at least try to act like you're supposed to be on the longer bus.
Cpl Kendall wrote:The first thread involved a pleasant discussion, but ended because you came in spewing crap everywhere, and so I got on to you for bringing up personal attack nonsense, and then you declared yourself enraged and the thread got closed as a result. So you broke the thread. (And now you blame me. How ridiculous!)
Your a goddamn liar Robert and you know it. As a matter of fact, I mentioned that I felt you got a bad rap.
Like I mentioned before, the heart of this disagreement is that you interpret the canon policy a certain way and others disagree. There can be no agreement until the heart of the matter is resolved.
Now kindly do not bitch and moan about us being time vampires, when it is you who posted the thread.
And it is you who continue to look down your nose at the members for disagreeing with you.
stitch626 wrote:However, this is not the thread for such discussion
I never said Needa was stupid. Just uninformed. It is foolish to assume that any one officer would know everything about every past ship, especially one that is secret.
I certainly would not expect a U.S. General to know every tactical system of submarines from 30 years ago.
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