Obi Wan versus Darth Vader fight redone

Obi Wan versus Darth Vader fight redone

Postby McAvoy » Thu May 09, 2019 2:15 am



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Re: Obi Wan versus Darth Vader fight redone

Postby McAvoy » Sat May 11, 2019 4:46 am

Maybe one of the admins can fix this. Maybe because I did it on my phone.
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Re: Obi Wan versus Darth Vader fight redone

Postby Graham Kennedy » Sat May 11, 2019 11:02 am

That is very, very well done.

So... if Lucas had done this for the special editions, would people mind? I'd prefer changes like this over sticking random CGI creatures in left and right.
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Re: Obi Wan versus Darth Vader fight redone

Postby McAvoy » Sun May 12, 2019 1:52 am

Graham Kennedy wrote:That is very, very well done.

So... if Lucas had done this for the special editions, would people mind? I'd prefer changes like this over sticking random CGI creatures in left and right.


There was an article written on it yesterday. Anyway apparently majority of the fans who have seen it actually like it.

Like if it was incorporated and polished (fix the faces, make it look like part of the film etc), then I have no doubt it would be hated like Who Shot First.

Me personally I would have gotten rid of the lens flares.
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Re: Obi Wan versus Darth Vader fight redone

Postby Graham Kennedy » Mon May 13, 2019 3:25 pm

I dunno about that, actually. The trouble fans have with "Han shot first" is that it played directly in to the character arc. Han shooting first demonstrated that Han was a pretty hardcore cynic who was perfectly happy to pretty much straight up murder somebody who was a threat to him. Over the course of the film we see him find people and a cause that he cares about, leading to him returning to help Luke out at the Death Star. That whole arc is undercut if you make Han into somebody who was actually much nicer in the first place. He's not a cynic who'll shoot people, he just defended himself!

It's a similar complaint with Luke's scream as he fell in Empire Strikes Back. The whole point of that moment was that he had given up and resigned himself to dying. That's negated if he's then like "Yeaaaaarrrrgh!" as he falls, as if he'd just tripped and fell or something.

But in this case the whole point of the fight is that these are meant to be two badass warriors taking one another on. The change doesn't negate that, it plays into it - because let's face it, the fight we got was two actors awkwardly hitting sticks together. This change works for me because it reinforces the narrative rather than contradicting it.

Of course I can see that purists wouldn't want any change at all, and that's fine. The original theatrical versions should always be available for such people, IMO. But do what Trek did with the remastered versions, and put blu-rays on which allow multiple versions of the media to be watched. Then everyone can be happy.
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Re: Obi Wan versus Darth Vader fight redone

Postby McAvoy » Mon May 13, 2019 6:24 pm

I agree. Especially with the 2019 context we have Darth Vader who has grown into his own using strength based lightsaber attacks and has a intense hatred of what Obi Wan did to him.

It makes more sense in this scene then original. Because after all Lucas wasn't planning that far ahead.
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Re: Obi Wan versus Darth Vader fight redone

Postby RK_Striker_JK_5 » Sun May 19, 2019 10:41 pm

I find this to be well-made. but I don't need this. I love the first one just fine. I recognize and acknowledge the real-life limitations when it was made.
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Re: Obi Wan versus Darth Vader fight redone

Postby McAvoy » Tue May 21, 2019 2:15 am

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:I find this to be well-made. but I don't need this. I love the first one just fine. I recognize and acknowledge the real-life limitations when it was made.


It's something fun to see how would an a tusk fight between two former friends would have been. With one friend burning in hatred because he is in a 'iron lung' due to his friend and being thoroughly immersed in the Dark Side. And his friend no longer as young as he used to be.
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