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Re: STID review/discussion for those who've seen it SPOILERS

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Things break down and needs to be repaired. Routine checks prevent this. Also wear and tear on the crew from doing too much in a big ship.

So... yeah you can fly the ship anywhere but not for long missions.
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GrahamKennedy wrote:
SomosFuga wrote:I also don´t like the level of automatization of the Vengance. If they can suddenly make a huge ship which can be crewed by just a couple of guys why the hell they usually have hundreds of crew members.
You could say the same about Star Trek III, or any of the various other times we've seen a ship operated by a tiny crew.
Fair Enough.

So lets say you can fly a ship with a skeleton crew for a wile or take from here to there but not to operate it at full capacity.
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Actually the Enterprise in STIII was pretty much crippled having to operate with a sceleton crew if memory serves right.

They couldn't really do much, couldn't even raise shields before taking any combat damage and were disabled with the first shot. In short, it handled pretty much like one would expect.
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Atekimogus wrote:Actually the Enterprise in STIII was pretty much crippled having to operate with a sceleton crew if memory serves right.

They couldn't really do much, couldn't even raise shields before taking any combat damage and were disabled with the first shot. In short, it handled pretty much like one would expect.
You have to remember though this was after being nearly destroyed by the Reliant.
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stitch626 wrote:
Atekimogus wrote:Actually the Enterprise in STIII was pretty much crippled having to operate with a sceleton crew if memory serves right.

They couldn't really do much, couldn't even raise shields before taking any combat damage and were disabled with the first shot. In short, it handled pretty much like one would expect.
You have to remember though this was after being nearly destroyed by the Reliant.
True but how much was repaired afterwards? Perhaps not a lot.

To me it seemed from that scene that the automation Scotty had set up was knocked out.
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Of the regular crew aboard a starship, not all seem to be regularly engaged in running or maintaining the ship anyway. Engineering is one department of many: other departments are there to do stuff with the resources of the ship (sciences) or to maintain the rest of the crew (medical, security). Ship crews were always small compared to the size of the ships. Vengeance just takes an existing theme in Trek to a further extreme.

OTOH, I wonder if that ship, capable of running with minimal crew, is also designed to carry a boatload of troops.
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Captain Picard's Hair wrote:Of the regular crew aboard a starship, not all seem to be regularly engaged in running or maintaining the ship anyway. Engineering is one department of many: other departments are there to do stuff with the resources of the ship (sciences) or to maintain the rest of the crew (medical, security). Ship crews were always small compared to the size of the ships. Vengeance just takes an existing theme in Trek to a further extreme.

OTOH, I wonder if that ship, capable of running with minimal crew, is also designed to carry a boatload of troops.
She probably is, there is a lot of space.
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