Star Trek XI Romulan Weapons

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The rifle looks like a repurposed mining tool that saw extensive modification (because no one would build a weapon with that... thing... on the back, right).
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alexmann wrote:I would imagine that they also use them as tools so they should have adjustable settings.
On the contrary, I expect folks like miners to have very specialized and more efficient tools for their work.
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In reference to Romulan infantry, we know they do infact have some of the only infanty in that part of the galaxy, The Reman shock troops used in the Dominion war.

If you discount Klingon warrior idiots and there knifes Remans are the only real land troops we see.
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alexmann wrote:I would imagine that they also use them as tools so they should have adjustable settings.
On the contrary, I expect folks like miners to have very specialized and more efficient tools for their work.
The fed's have phaser drills which basically have the same effect as a high ROF phaser rifle.
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alexmann wrote:The fed's have phaser drills which basically have the same effect as a high ROF phaser rifle.
...and, kittens have balls of yarn. However; #1 - that's NOT the effect of a phaser drill*, and #2 - we're talking about the Romulan miners from XI, not the UFP from TNG.

Furthermore, if the UFP has such a tool available to people who are NOT miners, wouldn't it make sense that people who ARE miners have something as specialized?

* - the effect of a phaser drill, as one may guess from the name, is to bore into (or "drill") into rock - NOT to vaporize sections or stun rock. We've seen shipboard phasers configured for such a purpose, but I don't recall seeing small arms being used efficiently (as a miner's standard tool would be) for same.
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Well they have been shown to be able to break rock up. That ability means you just need to pick the rock up and shift it to your refinery.
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alexmann wrote:Well they have been shown to be able to break rock up. That ability means you just need to pick the rock up and shift it to your refinery.
For some obscure reason, perhaps. For mining, however, you don't need to break up rock and move it - you need to get through rock to extract a particular ore or mineral from a larger, heterogenous substrate.
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Nowadays all you need to do is mine the whole rock itself, and extract is later. Depending on the rock, you can recycle it as concrete or something else.
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McAvoy wrote:Nowadays all you need to do is mine the whole rock itself, and extract is later. Depending on the rock, you can recycle it as concrete or something else.
Not practical - if you're mining for (for example) bauxite, why would you remove to your refinery/smelter all the rock that doesn't have any bauxite in it?
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True. Not everyone uses that method to extract whatever they need from the rocks.
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But you can shift the rock that you don't need to refine out the way and use it for other stuff.
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Going by the images Reliant posted, I'd say they aren't mining tools, They appear to be built as weapons (I.e. that’s the original purpose of then), and there is no way you would use weapons as mining tools, that's just a ridiculous suggestion.
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What use would miners have for weapons?
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alexmann wrote:But you can shift the rock that you don't need to refine out the way and use it for other stuff.
You could, but why would you? There is a greater cost involved (via energy, labor, or whatever) in transporting x tons of rock + y tons of target ore than there is in just transporting y tons of ore... not to mention the cost and time of dividing and removing all the extraneous stuff.
Griffin wrote:Going by the images Reliant posted, I'd say they aren't mining tools, They appear to be built as weapons (I.e. that’s the original purpose of then), and there is no way you would use weapons as mining tools, that's just a ridiculous suggestion.
Exactly my point. We're talking about professional miners, who would undoubtedly have actual mining equipment to hand.
alexmann wrote:What use would miners have for weapons?
Defending themselves and their claims, or (for less scrupulous miners) taking other folks' claims by force.
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alexmann wrote:What use would miners have for weapons?
As Mikey said, defense against claim-jumpers or claim-jumping themselves.
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