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Re: Terran defence
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 12:57 am
by Sonic Glitch
Nickswitz wrote:Or that he thought they were. Whose to say he had any clue how strong they were, he may have just wanted them in case they were too strong against his ship.
It's also possible that the "subspace protection grid" (or whatever he said) is some sort of IFF grid. Each ship has some sort of say "subspace transponder" and what he wanted was the Friendly IFF frequency?
Re: Terran defence
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 4:33 am
by Tsukiyumi
I chalk it up to Nero being cautious. In any conflict (from a fistfight on up to a world war), you want to have every advantage you can get, regardless of how powerful you are.
Re: Terran defence
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 8:07 pm
by Mark
Captain Seafort wrote:Mark wrote:Remember this same ship plowed through 47 Klingon warships with no noticable effect
And? We have no evidence whatsoever of the strength of Earth's defences. If it's designed to hold off thousands of Klingon ships, then the ability to go through 47 (of unknown type) isn't very impressive.
Plus, of course, we have the fact that Nero was rather keen to get his hands on the codes, suggesting that the defences were indeed strong enough to pose a threat to the Nerada.
My thought is that just didn't want to take the time. After all, we see no evidence that he snuck past Vulcans defenses. As for the rest, thats pure conjecture. We don't know how easy it was for the Narada to defeat that many ships. We DON'T know there strengeth, but it wouln't be unrealistic to assume they had a military buildup to match Starfleets, would it?
Re: Terran defence
Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 2:37 pm
by Mikey
We didn't see any evidence of the remains of any Vulcan defenses to have defeated. The only defenses around Vulcan that we saw were the cries for help for Starfleet to send ships.
Re: Terran defence
Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 2:59 pm
by Tsukiyumi
Mikey wrote:...The only defenses around Vulcan that we saw were the cries for help for Starfleet to send ships.
And it worked out great.
...Oh, right...
Re: Terran defence
Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 3:01 pm
by Mikey
I didn't say it worked, I said that's the way it was.
Re: Terran defence
Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 3:04 pm
by Tsukiyumi
Yeah, I know. I'm just saying that it didn't seem to be a very good plan.
Re: Terran defence
Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 5:42 pm
by Captain Seafort
Mikey wrote:We didn't see any evidence of the remains of any Vulcan defenses to have defeated. The only defenses around Vulcan that we saw were the cries for help for Starfleet to send ships.
Don't forget the big saucer the neoE clipped - none of the ships we saw were big enough for it to be one of them, so it could well have been a Vulcan orbital station.
Re: Terran defence
Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 9:17 pm
by Graham Kennedy
You know that "giant saucer" isn't actually that giant. It's about the same size as the Enterprise's saucer.