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thelordharry
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“To laugh often and much; to win the respect of intelligent people and
the affection of children...to leave the world a better place...to
know even one life has breathed easier because you have lived. This is
to have succeeded.”
the affection of children...to leave the world a better place...to
know even one life has breathed easier because you have lived. This is
to have succeeded.”
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Aren't there cases in Trek where time traveling doesn't create alternate universes but completes a time loop? I remember one of the few episodes of DS9 I saw the Temporal guys talk about how captains always think they're filling a predestined time loop out.
I'm the kind of guy who likes the simplest explanation and usually hates time traveling in the first place. Isn't it possible that the Borg in ENT are a time loop? For that matter couldn't the Temporal Cold War?
I'm the kind of guy who likes the simplest explanation and usually hates time traveling in the first place. Isn't it possible that the Borg in ENT are a time loop? For that matter couldn't the Temporal Cold War?
How many Minbari does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
None. They always surrender right before they finish the job and never tell you why.
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None. They always surrender right before they finish the job and never tell you why.
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IntrepidPrincess
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I tend to feel that Nero going back in time created a whole ripple effect both ways on the timeline. (I apologize if this has already been said, I didn't see it anywhere)
Think about this: Nero goes back. we've already seen slight differences 25 years after his arrival, so by the time the E-E came around (if it still did at the same time) I would imagine it would be much more different.
then the borg might never go back, and who knows what little itsy bitsy things will affect the timeline by the time of ENT. if the borg didn't go back it would at least change the "borg in the arctic" episode.
that accounts for most if not all differences in Abramsverse from Geneverse 'before' Nero arrives.
(sorry for the big post)
Think about this: Nero goes back. we've already seen slight differences 25 years after his arrival, so by the time the E-E came around (if it still did at the same time) I would imagine it would be much more different.
then the borg might never go back, and who knows what little itsy bitsy things will affect the timeline by the time of ENT. if the borg didn't go back it would at least change the "borg in the arctic" episode.
that accounts for most if not all differences in Abramsverse from Geneverse 'before' Nero arrives.
(sorry for the big post)
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Trust me, your nowhere near a big post.(sorry for the big post)
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hey stitch, love the new av. 
“You cannot play God then wash your hands of the things that you've created. Sooner or later, the day comes when you can't hide from the things that you've done anymore.”
And then Buffy staked Edward. The End.
From Slave to Princess
And then Buffy staked Edward. The End.
From Slave to Princess
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You noticed eh.
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The orginal wasnt it?
What does defeat mean to you?
Nothing it will never come. Death before defeat. I don’t bend or break. I end, if I meet a foe capable of it. Victory is in forcing the opponent to back down. I do not. There is no defeat.
Nothing it will never come. Death before defeat. I don’t bend or break. I end, if I meet a foe capable of it. Victory is in forcing the opponent to back down. I do not. There is no defeat.
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Aye, that was his first one.
"You've all been selected for this mission because you each have a special skill. Professor Hawking, John Leslie, Phil Neville, the Wu-Tang Clan, Usher, the Sugar Puffs Monster and Daniel Day-Lewis! Welcome to Operation MindFuck!"
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I wasn't here then.Rochey wrote:Aye, that was his first one.
“You cannot play God then wash your hands of the things that you've created. Sooner or later, the day comes when you can't hide from the things that you've done anymore.”
And then Buffy staked Edward. The End.
From Slave to Princess
And then Buffy staked Edward. The End.
From Slave to Princess
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Not everyone falls to hell at the same time...Royal_Foxx wrote:I wasn't here then.Rochey wrote:Aye, that was his first one.
Jinsei wa cho no yume, shi no tsubasa no bitodesu
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some even escape for a time and then fall back in!Deepcrush wrote:Not everyone falls to hell at the same time...Royal_Foxx wrote:I wasn't here then.Rochey wrote:Aye, that was his first one.
As for the timeline, IntrepidPrincess made a good point, and one that will bake your brain trying to wrap around it. Nero comes through, attacks the Kelvin this starts SF down the path of arming up more effectivly, By the time we get to the E-E SF is more powerfull and might be able to stop the borg well before they reach Earth preventing the sphere from going back in time. However I do hope that is not the case would rather have the new timeline be a split from the prime one at the attack on the kelvin rather than from First contact.
Genius insania et conseri manum
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GrahamKennedy wrote:The mention of "Admiral Archer's prize beagle" indicates that at least SOME version of Ent is part of this timeline.
Only season four. Since the timeline reset itself in season three.
They say that in the Army,
the women are mighty fine.
They look like Phyllis Diller,
and walk like Frankenstein.
the women are mighty fine.
They look like Phyllis Diller,
and walk like Frankenstein.
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Oh so? S3 is still there the Enterprise was still heavly damaged, SF and the Vulcans had a hearing about Archer and the ship in the Expanse.
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Look.......I'm clinging to that as an excuse for seasons one and two. Don't take that away from me 
They say that in the Army,
the women are mighty fine.
They look like Phyllis Diller,
and walk like Frankenstein.
the women are mighty fine.
They look like Phyllis Diller,
and walk like Frankenstein.
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ANY excuse for seasons on and two are better than nothing...Mark wrote:Look.......I'm clinging to that as an excuse for seasons one and two. Don't take that away from me
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