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Confirmed: STXI is alternate timeline

Postby Sionnach Glic » Fri Dec 12, 2008 7:35 pm

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It's too long to post, so I'll just steal SDN's shortened version:

Q: Why do some things appear different in the new Star Trek movie?
A: There is an alternative timeline created by Nero traveling back in time.

Q: Is everything different in the alternative timeline?
A: No, some things remain the same.

Q: Does this alternative timeline wipe out the original timeline (from TOS -Nemesis)?
A: No, quantum theory says they both co-exist.

Q: Does the original timeline continue?
A: Yes, again as explained by quantum theory.

Q: Does this quantum theory approach conform to 'Trek science?'
A: Depends on the episode, but it is explicitly cited by Data in the episode "Parallels.


Good. I like that they've at least put enough thought into it to say "yeah, we know it's different, and here's a reason." My hopes have just raised a tad.
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Confirmed: STXI is alternate timeline

Postby Sionnach Glic » Fri Dec 12, 2008 7:37 pm

Article
It's too long to post, so I'll just steal SDN's shortened version:

Q: Why do some things appear different in the new Star Trek movie?
A: There is an alternative timeline created by Nero traveling back in time.

Q: Is everything different in the alternative timeline?
A: No, some things remain the same.

Q: Does this alternative timeline wipe out the original timeline (from TOS -Nemesis)?
A: No, quantum theory says they both co-exist.

Q: Does the original timeline continue?
A: Yes, again as explained by quantum theory.

Q: Does this quantum theory approach conform to 'Trek science?'
A: Depends on the episode, but it is explicitly cited by Data in the episode "Parallels.


Good. I like that they've at least put enough thought into it to say "yeah, we know it's different, and here's a reason." My hopes have just raised a tad.
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Re: Confirmed: STXI is alternate timeline

Postby Sionnach Glic » Fri Dec 12, 2008 7:38 pm

Double-threads merged. My bad.
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Re: Confirmed: STXI is alternate timeline

Postby Mikey » Fri Dec 12, 2008 7:51 pm

The fact that some precedent was derived from canon is a heartening sight.
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Re: Confirmed: STXI is alternate timeline

Postby Captain Picard's Hair » Fri Dec 12, 2008 7:55 pm

Mikey wrote:The fact that some precedent was derived from canon is a heartening sight.


Yeah, at least they're demonstrating awareness of, and even some respect for, canon.

too bad it's too late to fix the massively self-contradictory muck that is 'canon'
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Re: Confirmed: STXI is alternate timeline

Postby Mikey » Fri Dec 12, 2008 7:56 pm

Shh!
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Re: Confirmed: STXI is alternate timeline

Postby Captain Seafort » Fri Dec 12, 2008 8:50 pm

Good for them. This way they'll effectively be able to do whatever they like, while being explicit that this isn't trying to overwrite TOS, but merely depict what might have happened had some past events turned out differently.

I still think the alt-E-nil is ugly though.
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Re: Confirmed: STXI is alternate timeline

Postby Tsukiyumi » Fri Dec 12, 2008 8:55 pm

Captain Seafort wrote:...I still think the alt-E-nil is ugly though.


Hey, everyone takes bad pictures now and then (or 90% of the time for me). :wink: It'll probably look better in motion on a giant screen.
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Re: Confirmed: STXI is alternate timeline

Postby Mikey » Fri Dec 12, 2008 10:04 pm

EVERYTHING looks better with sh*t getting blowed up around it.
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Re: Confirmed: STXI is alternate timeline

Postby Tsukiyumi » Fri Dec 12, 2008 10:09 pm

Mikey wrote:EVERYTHING looks better with sh*t getting blowed up around it.


Damn straight. 8)
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Re: Confirmed: STXI is alternate timeline

Postby drakkillus darksunn » Sat Dec 13, 2008 5:33 am

Well, that is just brilliant....now it doesn't seem so much a cheapshot money scheme....I am actually looking forward to this film even more than before. For some odd reason, I always greatly enjoyed the time-traveling shenanigans. :twisted:
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Re: Confirmed: STXI is alternate timeline

Postby Mark » Sat Dec 13, 2008 7:15 am

Tsukiyumi wrote:
Mikey wrote:EVERYTHING looks better with sh*t getting blowed up around it.


Damn straight. 8)



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Re: Confirmed: STXI is alternate timeline

Postby Aaron » Sat Dec 13, 2008 11:41 am

drakkillus darksunn wrote:Well, that is just brilliant....now it doesn't seem so much a cheapshot money scheme....I am actually looking forward to this film even more than before. For some odd reason, I always greatly enjoyed the time-traveling shenanigans. :twisted:


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Re: Confirmed: STXI is alternate timeline

Postby Reliant121 » Sat Dec 13, 2008 12:12 pm

:lol:

on a serious note, i am rather warmed that they made the effort to find a solution to the time-traveling, canon-altering stuff from an actual episode, and found a way of doing it that is quite canon as far as i am aware. Thumbs up for the writers, taking at least a bit of notice for this film.
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Re: Confirmed: STXI is alternate timeline

Postby Sionnach Glic » Sat Dec 13, 2008 12:42 pm

Aye, the fact that they chose an excuse that actualy has precedent in the universe is very heartening.m
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