McAvoy wrote:No.... the slippery slope here is that your government is placing filters for porn in your country and it isnt that hard to think they would do that for other things too like I have said. I am not talking about going from porn filters to mind control implants. I am just talking about censorship. But apparently this is already being done in the UK.
If the MPAA decides to go lax on its rating system why not? It is just a rating system with the theater itself enforcing it. The police do not enforce it.
TV is harder but those TV ratings are relatively new. There is no porn on regular cable because porn makes money by subscription just like HBO does. Movies are edited of course as it has been shown that people make a big stink of it.
Internet is the same way. I haven't seen any porn ads on the mainstream sites. I haven't seen any on Facebook or atwitter and so forth. Parents can place blocks on sites or filters to prevent their kids from going where they are not allowed.
There is no reason why a government mandated filter is needed. Is the internet perfect? No of course not. But guess what? Attempts to shut down sites like torrent sites have failed for example.
Yeah, just porn filters and you can turn it off any time you want and turn it back on. If it stops there then no big deal but I bet it won't.
I still want to know when you are going to lead the rebellion against Google? How dare then filter your porn. It's a slippery slope you know. Next they'll block access to all unix sites, because they don't pay enough.
They are a company not a government. I can use bing or hell no search engine sites. Can't do that with governments though can you?
"Don't underestimate the power of technobabble: the Federation can win anything with the sheer force of bullshit"
Oh and I would actually like to know if this is actually passed how they plan to implement it. I mean the internet is not entirely located in the UK for someone to place such filters. Nor is there a single source either. So it will be some sort of software you have to have with your server? Some sort of filter included with your internet service?
"Don't underestimate the power of technobabble: the Federation can win anything with the sheer force of bullshit"
McAvoy wrote:No.... the slippery slope here is that your government is placing filters for porn in your country and it isnt that hard to think they would do that for other things too like I have said. I am not talking about going from porn filters to mind control implants. I am just talking about censorship. But apparently this is already being done in the UK.
If the MPAA decides to go lax on its rating system why not? It is just a rating system with the theater itself enforcing it. The police do not enforce it.
TV is harder but those TV ratings are relatively new. There is no porn on regular cable because porn makes money by subscription just like HBO does. Movies are edited of course as it has been shown that people make a big stink of it.
Internet is the same way. I haven't seen any porn ads on the mainstream sites. I haven't seen any on Facebook or atwitter and so forth. Parents can place blocks on sites or filters to prevent their kids from going where they are not allowed.
There is no reason why a government mandated filter is needed. Is the internet perfect? No of course not. But guess what? Attempts to shut down sites like torrent sites have failed for example.
Yeah, just porn filters and you can turn it off any time you want and turn it back on. If it stops there then no big deal but I bet it won't.
I still want to know when you are going to lead the rebellion against Google? How dare then filter your porn. It's a slippery slope you know. Next they'll block access to all unix sites, because they don't pay enough.
They are a company not a government. I can use bing or hell no search engine sites. Can't do that with governments though can you?
As I already said and you ignored. For the vast majority of people Google is the only search engine they are aware of. It is the defacto standard as it is the default one on the majority of web browsers out there. They are so standard people talk about googling for things rather than searching for them.
You do not need to switch to another search engine to avoid the limitation, you simply have to press a few buttons.
McAvoy wrote:That is for you guys in the UK. In the US they are not enforced by law. Overall it has been the responsibility of an organization to maintain this system. Which even though I have noticed they are getting lax with it lately has done a good job about it.
However aside from the people at movie theaters, no one enforces the rating systems on TV at home. It is up to the parent to put the filters in. There isn't a automatic system in place.
Can't speak for the UK. Maybe you guys have a system in place where it is the reverse where the filters are already in place and you have to turn them off if for example you want to watch Skinamax.
McAvoy wrote:They are a company not a government. I can use bing or hell no search engine sites. Can't do that with governments though can you?
Yes, of cause you can, once every five years I believe in the US. About the same here in the UK. It's called democracy I suspect you've heard of it.
That and there are a number of countries still taking new immigrants without restrictions, each with it's own unique government.
Sure. Sure. It is still a government not a company. Companies do not or should not be dictating what everyone should do. Government is not a company. Companies can do whatever they want. That is why Youtube doesn't have porn options. Google has automatic filters. Facebook has filters. They are companies. Not governments.
If you Google decided to ban all porn results no one can say anything about it. There will be no vote and will not be appealed because they can do whatever they want. Google can be forced but it is still their choice.
Companies are not governments and governments are not companies. One does not equal the other.
"Don't underestimate the power of technobabble: the Federation can win anything with the sheer force of bullshit"
So what you are saying is that you don't want people in a democracy to get what they vote for? The government, in both of our countries, is put there to enact the will of the people. If the will of the people is to have a default block on porn and that adults can simply turn it off when ever they want, who are you to say they cannot do that? Surely that's exactly what democracy is there for. There are alternative forms of government, I'm not sure you would be happy with them though.
