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They say death comes in threes...

Postby Captain Seafort » Mon Dec 19, 2011 6:48 pm

Well here's the third for this year. :D

Kim Jong-Il dead

North Koreans are in mourning after the death of their leader, Kim Jong-il.

People wept openly on the streets of the capital, Pyongyang. State media said he had suffered a heart attack on Saturday, aged 69. He had been unwell.

The official news agency KCNA described one of his sons, Kim Jong-un, as the "great successor" whom North Koreans should unite behind.

Pyongyang's neighbours are on alert fearing instability in the poor and isolated nuclear-armed nation.

Fears were compounded by unconfirmed reports from South Korean news agency Yonhap that the North had test-fired a missile off its eastern coast before the announcement of Kim Jong-il's death.

Following news of Mr Kim's death, South Korea put its armed forces on high alert and said the country was on a crisis footing. Japan's government convened a special security meeting.

China - North Korea's closest ally and biggest trading partner - expressed shock at the news of his death and pledged to continue making "active contributions to peace and stability on the Korean peninsula and in this region".

US Defence Secretary Leon Panetta called for a "prudent" approach following Mr Kim's death.

North and South Korea are still technically at war, and the US has nearly 30,000 troops stationed in South Korea. Last year the North was accused of sinking a South Korean patrol boat and the two countries exchanged fire across the disputed maritime border.

Meanwhile, the UN General Assembly overwhelmingly backed a resolution condemning human rights violations in North Korea. The vote, scheduled before Mr Kim's death was announced, called for an end to "systematic, widespread and grave violations". North Korea rejected the resolution.

Asian stock markets fell after news of Mr Kim's death was announced.

Analysis

The death of Kim Jong-il is the ultimate moment of truth for North Korea. This strangest of regimes has survived for 20 years after most forms of communism elsewhere either perished or morphed into something more sensible. So we had best not underestimate its staying power.

Kim Jong-un inherits a poisoned chalice. This untried youth must now run a country both at odds with most of the world and oppressive of its long-suffering people - who may not obey forever, despite the remarkable scenes of publicly orchestrated grief which we are now witnessing.


Crying aloud

Mr Kim's death was announced in an emotional statement on national television.

The announcer, wearing black, struggled to keep back the tears as she said he had died of physical and mental over-work.

KCNA later reported that he had died of a "severe myocardial infarction along with a heart attack" at 08:30 local time on Saturday (23:30 GMT Friday).

He had been on a train at the time, for one of his "field guidance" tours, KCNA said.

The state news agency said a funeral would be held in Pyongyang on 28 December and Kim Jong-un would head the funeral committee. A period of national mourning has been declared from 17 to 29 December.

Images from inside the secretive state showed people in the streets of Pyongyang weeping at the news of his death.

Ruling party members in one North Korean county were shown by state TV banging tables and crying out loud, the AFP news agency reports.

"I can't believe it," a party member named as Kang Tae-Ho was quoted as saying. "How can he go like this? What are we supposed to do?"

Another, Hong Sun-Ok, said: "He tried so hard to make our lives much better and he just left like this."

KCNA said people were "convulsing with pain and despair" at their loss, but would unite behind his successor Kim Jong-un.

It said millions of North Koreans were "engulfed in indescribable sadness".
"All party members, military men and the public should faithfully follow the leadership of comrade Kim Jong-un and protect and further strengthen the unified front of the party, military and the public," the news agency said.

Little is known about Kim Jong-un. He was educated in Switzerland, is aged in his late 20s and is believed to be Kim Jong-il's third son - born to Mr Kim's reportedly favourite wife, the late Ko Yong-hui.

Kim Jong-un was unveiled as his father's likely successor just over a year ago. Many had expected to see this process further consolidated in 2012.
'Turning point'

South Korea urged people to "go about their usual economic activities" on Monday, while putting the military on alert.

President Lee Myung-Bak spoke to US President Barack Obama by telephone and they "agreed to closely co-operate and monitor the situation together", a South Korean presidential spokesman said.

The two countries' defence ministers also spoke and "agreed that it is critical to remain prudent with respect to all matters related to our security posture there", a US Defense Department spokesman said.

China said it was "distressed" to hear the news of Mr Kim's death. "We express our grief about this and extend our condolences to the people of North Korea," foreign ministry spokesman Ma Zhaoxu was quoted by Xinhua news agency as saying.

Analysts say that with the process of transition from father to son incomplete, Mr Kim's death could herald "very unstable times" in North Korea.

Kim Jong-il inherited the leadership of North Korea from his father Kim Il-sung.

Shortly after he came to power in 1994, a severe famine caused by ill-judged economic reforms and poor harvests left an estimated two million people dead.

His regime has been harshly criticised for human rights abuses and is internationally isolated because of its pursuit of nuclear weapons.

Under Mr Kim's leadership, funds have been channelled to the military and in 2006 North Korea conducted its first nuclear test. It followed that up with a second one three years later. Multinational talks aimed at disarming North Korea have been deadlocked for months.

He had reportedly been in poor health since suffering a stroke in August 2008.

Analysis

Kim Jong-il's death is no real surprise. His public appearances have shown him visibly dwindling in much the way North Korea on his watch has shrivelled to an isolated pariah and a basket-case economy with one of the world's worst human rights records.

On the world stage Kim Jong-il has played a canny game of nuclear brinkmanship.

To the outside world he became a figure of curiosity, intrigue, even fun - the communist tyrant from central casting with his bouffant hairdo, khaki jumpsuits and plaform shoes.

But for his fellow countrymen there was nothing funny about him at all. The fact the announcement came two full days after his death, kept from the prying eyes of numerous intelligence agencies, is itself perhaps an ominous signal; that the secretive, authoritarian status quo he did so much to maintain is likely to prevail.


This is turning into a really bad year for the scum of the earth, :lol: Looks like Lighthawk's contribution to the funny pics thread was prophetic
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Re: They say death comes in threes...

Postby Tsukiyumi » Mon Dec 19, 2011 9:10 pm

Captain Seafort wrote:This is turning into a really bad year for the scum of the earth, :lol: Looks like Lighthawk's contribution to the funny pics thread was prophetic


You know, I'd forgotten about that. Odd coincidence, or secret plot?

*cue dramatic music*

:lol:

Questions are, how will the transfer of power go, will Kim Jong-un be the leader, and if so, will he be worse or better?
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Re: They say death comes in threes...

Postby Captain Seafort » Mon Dec 19, 2011 9:15 pm

Tsukiyumi wrote:Questions are, how will the transfer of power go


What transfer? The military's in charge now, the military will continue to be in charge.

will Kim Jong-un be the leader


This is the world's only Stalinist monarchy we're talking about. The Kim is dead, long live the Kim.

will he be worse or better?


I doubt there'll be much difference.
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Re: They say death comes in threes...

Postby RK_Striker_JK_5 » Mon Dec 19, 2011 10:14 pm

Well, that pic's made of win. 8)

I don't know. I'm glad he's dead, just wish it was after someone dropped a shrapnel grenade down his pants.
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Re: They say death comes in threes...

Postby Reliant121 » Mon Dec 19, 2011 10:38 pm

Part of me is concerned how politically astute Kim-kiddy is. While a nutcase, from what I can tell Kim the elder was at least politically aware enough to know he'd be screwed in a war with western civilization. Does his successor know the same?
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Re: They say death comes in threes...

Postby RK_Striker_JK_5 » Mon Dec 19, 2011 10:44 pm

Reliant121 wrote:Part of me is concerned how politically astute Kim-kiddy is. While a nutcase, from what I can tell Kim the elder was at least politically aware enough to know he'd be screwed in a war with western civilization. Does his successor know the same?


Yeah, that's another thing I'm worried about.
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Re: They say death comes in threes...

Postby IanKennedy » Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:37 am

Guess he was just too lonely without the rest of them to stay behind.
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Re: They say death comes in threes...

Postby shran » Tue Dec 20, 2011 12:36 pm

http://kimjongunlookingatthings.com/ Instead of http://kimjongillookingatthings.tumblr.com/ An interesting regime change, if anything.
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Re: They say death comes in threes...

Postby shran » Wed Dec 21, 2011 4:19 pm

Now, what will his replacement bring? At age 27 or 28, he hardly has any experience and is completely a product of an indoctrinated generation thinking his father and grandfather to be a god. At the same time, he enjoyed some education in Switzerland, presumably. Would that balance out into some pragmatism regarding his policies in North Korea, or will he go even further than his predecessors?
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Re: They say death comes in threes...

Postby Graham Kennedy » Wed Dec 21, 2011 5:21 pm

I wonder if the last couple have truly been dictators who could do whatever they wanted, rather than men whose grip on power depended in large part on keeping the military and ideologues happy. If the kid gets in and says "Hey, let's reform our economy to capitalist principles, cut the military budget in half, and open up relations with everyone else"... will they all go along, or will his health take a sudden and terminal decline?
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Re: They say death comes in threes...

Postby colmquinn » Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:32 am

Merosi? What they couldn't win by force of arms they did by finance?
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