Our Ship - Torpedoes

How much space?

Poll ended at Mon Jul 28, 2008 11:12 am

27%
0
No votes
23%
0
No votes
20%
8
40%
17%
1
5%
14%
0
No votes
11%
1
5%
PT Replicator
9
45%
No PT Replicator
1
5%
 
Total votes: 20
User avatar
Deepcrush
4 Star Admiral
4 Star Admiral
Posts: 18917
Joined: Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:15 pm
Location: Arnold, Maryland, USA

Re: Our Ship - Torpedoes

Post by Deepcrush »

Fair enough but isn't 6 low grade launchers a bit much? Since you're not using much space you should think about an upgrade to the type 4s.
Jinsei wa cho no yume, shi no tsubasa no bitodesu
User avatar
Captain Seafort
4 Star Admiral
4 Star Admiral
Posts: 15548
Joined: Thu Jul 19, 2007 1:44 pm
Location: Blighty

Re: Our Ship - Torpedoes

Post by Captain Seafort »

I covered that with the second part of my original answer - older launchers are more likely to have the inevitable bugs worked out of them. There's a good RL example of this - when the Nelson-class battleships were first commissioned in the early 20s, their main armament was notoriously complex and unreliable. By the time the war started, most of the problems had been ironed out, with the result that HMS Rodney inflicted most of the damage during the Bismarck's last fight, while HMS King George V, which had been in service less than a year, never managed to get her entire main armament into action, due to mechanical problems.
Only two things are infinite - the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the universe: Albert Einstein.
User avatar
Deepcrush
4 Star Admiral
4 Star Admiral
Posts: 18917
Joined: Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:15 pm
Location: Arnold, Maryland, USA

Re: Our Ship - Torpedoes

Post by Deepcrush »

Did E-D ever have trouble with it PTLs? Those always seemed to work just fine. I can understand your point about the Rapid Fires but the type 4's have been around for about 40 years at this point. By then the kinks have been worked out.
Jinsei wa cho no yume, shi no tsubasa no bitodesu
User avatar
Teaos
4 Star Admiral
4 Star Admiral
Posts: 15368
Joined: Tue Jul 17, 2007 4:00 am
Commendations: The Daystrom Award
Location: Behind you!

Re: Our Ship - Torpedoes

Post by Teaos »

This is the last major thing we are adding to our ship. Anything else we add will just be us expanding on other things as I pointed out in the internal volume run down.

I'll do what I did for the Beam weapons and throw up another poll when this one is sorted with the different configurations.
What does defeat mean to you?

Nothing it will never come. Death before defeat. I don’t bend or break. I end, if I meet a foe capable of it. Victory is in forcing the opponent to back down. I do not. There is no defeat.
Mikey
Fleet Admiral
Fleet Admiral
Posts: 35635
Joined: Fri Jul 27, 2007 3:04 am
Commendations: The Daystrom Award
Location: down the shore, New Jersey, USA
Contact:

Re: Our Ship - Torpedoes

Post by Mikey »

In that case, I'm changing to 20%, replicator, and the extra 1% for 200 extra QT's on my configuration #1.

a) 2x rapid fire tubes, 4x type 3 tubes, and an 800 torp stock
I can't stand nothing dull
I got the high gloss luster
I'll massacre your ass as fast
as Bull offed Custer
Tsukiyumi
4 Star Admiral
4 Star Admiral
Posts: 21747
Joined: Fri Oct 12, 2007 2:38 pm
Location: Forward Torpedo Tube Twenty. Help!
Contact:

Re: Our Ship - Torpedoes

Post by Tsukiyumi »

If I'm getting this correctly, I'm saying 20% volume, and replicator, broken down as follows:

3 rapid-fire tubes, all forward. (12%)

2 type-four tubes, one forward, one aft. (4%)

Then the replicator takes 2%, and 800 torpedoes would fill the remainder, plus two percent.

We would then have 5% of the total volume remaining for other considerations like living standards, etc.

Didn't Teaos say that the speed could be added to with extra warp core size? We need a little wiggle room here at the end, IMO.
There is only one way of avoiding the war – that is the overthrow of this society. However, as we are too weak for this task, the war is inevitable. -L. Trotsky, 1939
User avatar
Deepcrush
4 Star Admiral
4 Star Admiral
Posts: 18917
Joined: Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:15 pm
Location: Arnold, Maryland, USA

Re: Our Ship - Torpedoes

Post by Deepcrush »

DAMN! :shock:

Someone put down a heavier loadout then me! :confused:
Jinsei wa cho no yume, shi no tsubasa no bitodesu
Tsukiyumi
4 Star Admiral
4 Star Admiral
Posts: 21747
Joined: Fri Oct 12, 2007 2:38 pm
Location: Forward Torpedo Tube Twenty. Help!
Contact:

Re: Our Ship - Torpedoes

Post by Tsukiyumi »

What? Who?
There is only one way of avoiding the war – that is the overthrow of this society. However, as we are too weak for this task, the war is inevitable. -L. Trotsky, 1939
User avatar
Deepcrush
4 Star Admiral
4 Star Admiral
Posts: 18917
Joined: Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:15 pm
Location: Arnold, Maryland, USA

Re: Our Ship - Torpedoes

Post by Deepcrush »

You dumb ass! I only put 3 RFQTLs and you put 3 RFQTLs plus type 4s to boot.
Jinsei wa cho no yume, shi no tsubasa no bitodesu
Tsukiyumi
4 Star Admiral
4 Star Admiral
Posts: 21747
Joined: Fri Oct 12, 2007 2:38 pm
Location: Forward Torpedo Tube Twenty. Help!
Contact:

Re: Our Ship - Torpedoes

Post by Tsukiyumi »

Deepcrush wrote:You dumb ass! I only put 3 RFQTLs and you put 3 RFQTLs plus type 4s to boot.
Okay, I'll admit, I baited you into that insult on purpose. :wink:

I just wanted to make sure I didn't miss someone else creating a heavier config earlier (I didn't want to re-read the whole thread).

On a side note, that config could theoretically run out of all 800 torpedoes in about 48 seconds.
There is only one way of avoiding the war – that is the overthrow of this society. However, as we are too weak for this task, the war is inevitable. -L. Trotsky, 1939
User avatar
Reliant121
3 Star Admiral
3 Star Admiral
Posts: 12263
Joined: Thu Jul 26, 2007 5:00 pm

Re: Our Ship - Torpedoes

Post by Reliant121 »

I went for a 20% internal volume.

- 2 x Rapid fire QT = 8%
[both forward facing]

- 2 X pulse fire PT/QT = 5%
[Both aft facing]

- 2 Type 3 burst fire PT = 3%
[one aft, one forward]

- 2 x 200 Torpedo stocks (400 torps) = 2%

- 1 PT regenation system = 2%

__________
20%

I think i could have been a little shy with the Torpede stocks, but i can alter that later if necessary.
User avatar
Teaos
4 Star Admiral
4 Star Admiral
Posts: 15368
Joined: Tue Jul 17, 2007 4:00 am
Commendations: The Daystrom Award
Location: Behind you!

Re: Our Ship - Torpedoes

Post by Teaos »

On a side note, that config could theoretically run out of all 800 torpedoes in about 48 seconds.
If something survives that our ship deserves to die.

If we take the replicator we dont really need that much torpedo stock. Just enough for the QT's and a little room for PT stock.
What does defeat mean to you?

Nothing it will never come. Death before defeat. I don’t bend or break. I end, if I meet a foe capable of it. Victory is in forcing the opponent to back down. I do not. There is no defeat.
User avatar
Reliant121
3 Star Admiral
3 Star Admiral
Posts: 12263
Joined: Thu Jul 26, 2007 5:00 pm

Re: Our Ship - Torpedoes

Post by Reliant121 »

Kinda the aim of my spec. if we reserve 50 for PT's which are constantly regenerating, then 350 for the QT's then we got a pretty good compliment.
Sionnach Glic
4 Star Admiral
4 Star Admiral
Posts: 26014
Joined: Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:58 pm
Location: Poblacht na hÉireann, Baile Átha Cliath

Re: Our Ship - Torpedoes

Post by Sionnach Glic »

On a side note, that config could theoretically run out of all 800 torpedoes in about 48 seconds.
Feel the ownage!
"You've all been selected for this mission because you each have a special skill. Professor Hawking, John Leslie, Phil Neville, the Wu-Tang Clan, Usher, the Sugar Puffs Monster and Daniel Day-Lewis! Welcome to Operation MindFuck!"
Tsukiyumi
4 Star Admiral
4 Star Admiral
Posts: 21747
Joined: Fri Oct 12, 2007 2:38 pm
Location: Forward Torpedo Tube Twenty. Help!
Contact:

Re: Our Ship - Torpedoes

Post by Tsukiyumi »

Rochey wrote:
On a side note, that config could theoretically run out of all 800 torpedoes in about 48 seconds.
Feel the ownage!
:lol:

Hey, I didn't make the numbers, I just did the math. IMO, it's a good argument for having at least 800 torps. I was actually thinking of going for a nice, even 1,000. Which would run out in just under a minute.

Die, enemy fleet, die!
There is only one way of avoiding the war – that is the overthrow of this society. However, as we are too weak for this task, the war is inevitable. -L. Trotsky, 1939
Post Reply