Other Ships In The Colonial Fleet?

Re: Other Ships In The Colonial Fleet?

Postby Deepcrush » Sat Feb 20, 2010 1:08 am

Could it be one battlestar per battle group?
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Re: Other Ships In The Colonial Fleet?

Postby Mark » Sat Feb 20, 2010 1:32 am

That would be my first guess.
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Re: Other Ships In The Colonial Fleet?

Postby Sionnach Glic » Sat Feb 20, 2010 12:33 pm

That could make sense. Apart from Adama, the only people we've seen commanding a full-sized Battlestar have been Admirals (Cain and Nagala). If their fleet follows modern conventions then it would make sense, as the Battlestars would be the flagship of the BSG.
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Re: Other Ships In The Colonial Fleet?

Postby Aaron » Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:00 am

Sionnach Glic wrote:That could make sense. Apart from Adama, the only people we've seen commanding a full-sized Battlestar have been Admirals (Cain and Nagala). If their fleet follows modern conventions then it would make sense, as the Battlestars would be the flagship of the BSG.


Actually, no it doesn't. The Admiral would command the fleet, while the Captain of the ship commands the actual ship (Commander in nBSG).
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Re: Other Ships In The Colonial Fleet?

Postby McAvoy » Mon Feb 22, 2010 3:10 am

That's how it is in modern Carrier Groups too.

BsG is also an old ship about to retire too so maybe they didn't want to waste an Admiral on some old rust bucket.
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Re: Other Ships In The Colonial Fleet?

Postby Sionnach Glic » Mon Feb 22, 2010 5:13 pm

Cpl Kendall wrote:Actually, no it doesn't. The Admiral would command the fleet, while the Captain of the ship commands the actual ship (Commander in nBSG).


Oh, right.
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Re: Other Ships In The Colonial Fleet?

Postby Mark » Mon Feb 22, 2010 5:28 pm

And as was previously mentioned, there very well COULD have been a BSG group flag officer, but as Galactica was no longer serving with a BSG (I'm guessing like most of her original mark VII squadrens, the other ships were reassigned) what would an Admiral have to do? We didn't see any Admirals when Adama was on that solo mission with the Valkerye either.
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Re: Other Ships In The Colonial Fleet?

Postby McAvoy » Tue Feb 23, 2010 7:17 am

Wasn't the Valkryie of a smaller design?
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Re: Other Ships In The Colonial Fleet?

Postby Sionnach Glic » Tue Feb 23, 2010 4:51 pm

It's difficult to scale it to anything, but judging by the tiny size of the CIC (smaller even than a Mercury's) I'd bet it's quite a small ship. A light carrier of some sort.
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Re: Other Ships In The Colonial Fleet?

Postby Mark » Tue Feb 23, 2010 5:32 pm

Or, modern tech let them minimize the crew and systems needed in CIC. Remember, Pegasus was stated to be "twice as powerful with half the crew".
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Re: Other Ships In The Colonial Fleet?

Postby Sionnach Glic » Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:08 pm

The quote was "Twice the size with half the crew", but that statement was extremely wrong. Pegasus is only a few hundred metres longer than Galactica. Personally I'd always assumed she was reffering to the fighter complement when she talked about size.

Also, the Pegasus' CIC was a fair bit larger than the Valkyrie's.
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Re: Other Ships In The Colonial Fleet?

Postby Mark » Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:13 pm

Sionnach Glic wrote:The quote was "Twice the size with half the crew", but that statement was extremely wrong. Pegasus is only a few hundred metres longer than Galactica. Personally I'd always assumed she was reffering to the fighter complement when she talked about size.

Also, the Pegasus' CIC was a fair bit larger than the Valkyrie's.



I'll gladly stand corrected by the man who remembers Adama's barista's name :wink:

I'm not sure about the bridge size though. It seemed more a matter of angles and perspective to me.
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Re: Other Ships In The Colonial Fleet?

Postby Captain Seafort » Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:29 pm

Sionnach Glic wrote:The quote was "Twice the size with half the crew", but that statement was extremely wrong. Pegasus is only a few hundred metres longer than Galactica. Personally I'd always assumed she was reffering to the fighter complement when she talked about size.


Given that Galactica is 1400m long, Pegasus would only have to be 17-1800m long to be twice the volume (and, presumably, mass), assuming identical proportions. Given that the she's also a lot bulkier than the Bucket, I doubt she'd need to be that much longer. Pegasus also had double-stacked hangar bays, which might also have been what the statement was referring to.
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Re: Other Ships In The Colonial Fleet?

Postby Sionnach Glic » Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:53 pm

Mark wrote:I'll gladly stand corrected by the man who remembers Adama's barista's name :wink:


A barista is a bartender, right? Well, there was a bar on the Galactica called Joe's Bar, so I guess Joe would be the ship's bartender.

Mark wrote:I'm not sure about the bridge size though. It seemed more a matter of angles and perspective to me.


I think you may actually be right regarding the size of the CICs.

Pegasus:
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I've found a brief shot from The Plan which may be useful for scaling purposes.

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I wouldn't have a clue about how to go about scaling something, but maybe someone here could try scaling the ship to the Vipers?

Ignoring the fighters, there is something in that scene which could give us an indication of the ship's size. Check out the flight pod. See those three triangular shadowy openings just below and aft of the landing deck entrance?

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Those look a lot like Viper launch tubes to me. You can see almost identical openings on the Galactica herself, which we know to be launch tubes.

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So if those are indeed launch tubes then we can get a rough estimate of the ship's size.

A Viper which fits snugly into the launch tube has a wingspan of 4.7 metres. Let's be generous and assume then that the launch tube is 6 metres across at its base.

Again, I'm not great at scaling, but going by what I can see in that pic I got a rough width of the flight pod and then compared that to this pic:

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Someone else here could probably do it more accurately, but I came out at less than a kilometre.
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Re: Other Ships In The Colonial Fleet?

Postby Aaron » Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:10 pm

Just going by the guns on the starboard side, she's significantly smaller.

If we assume that they are PD guns and are of similar size to the Buckets, which you cannot even see on the ship in the show unless they zoom in.
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