Season 3 (nBSG)

[Sonic Glitch]

I'm starting to lose interest I'm sorry to say. Learning about Bulldog, Adama, and the Valkeryie was mildly interesting....but the damned boxing match crossing at least two episodes is getting really old. I had to double check to make sure I wasn't rewatching the same episode on accident.

It does pick up! I have it on decent authority -- i believe from the BSG wiki (or maybe just the BSG entry on Wikipedia) that in the Third Season the network wanted to get away from the "complicated story arcs" and essentially made them rework the last half of the season into a series of stand-alone episodes. The beginning of the season is, IMO trying to establish that the scars of New Caprica run deep. And then they scrap the character development for a couple of standalones because the network wanted them to which proves not to work.

That's exactly it. The studio execs wanted to move to an episodic formula like other sci-fi shows at the time had, which resulted in a boatload of completely unconnected and unimportant (and in one case uncanonical) episodes. Exactly why they wanted this when the story arc formula had resulted in one of the biggest sci-fi success in terms of ratings in a long time (soundly beating out Enterprise) is an utter mystery to me.

IIRC, they also wanted to bring aliens into the show as well but Olmos threatened to leave the show if they kept f***ing with it, so they dropped it.

Which one was the uncanonical episode?

[Sonic Glitch]

It wouldn't be so bad if they'd stop jumping around in time. Adama and the President? Yes or No? Apollo and Starbuck? WFT!?? Anders and Dee get the s**t end of the stick?

So much damned drama.

I could tell you, but there lie spoilers.

Part of me wants to say tell me so I can skip ahead.........but I know if I do I'll regret it later

Well, in no particular order: Yes, Maybe, Possibly, No, Well we can't really be sure, I suppose it's possible and All of this has happened before.

Does that help?

[Sionnach Glic]

Which one was the uncanonical episode?

Hero, the one with the Valkyrie was declared non-canon, IIRC. Moore wasn't happy with the whole episode and dumped it from canon. Hence why the new character in it and the events are never refferenced again.

[Mark]

So, Bulldog doesn't exist anymore..........and Adama doesn't have a medel after all?

[Sonic Glitch]

Which one was the uncanonical episode?

Hero, the one with the Valkyrie was declared non-canon, IIRC. Moore wasn't happy with the whole episode and dumped it from canon. Hence why the new character in it and the events are never refferenced again.

I understood it as Bulldog was meant to be recurring, but scheduling conflicts got in the way so he was written off (by which i mean forgotten about).

So, Bulldog doesn't exist anymore..........and Adama doesn't have a medel after all?

I'm sure Adama has oodles of Medals anyway...

[Aaron]

Which one was the uncanonical episode?

Hero, the one with the Valkyrie was declared non-canon, IIRC. Moore wasn't happy with the whole episode and dumped it from canon. Hence why the new character in it and the events are never refferenced again.

Really? I consider that one of the best episodes of the series.

[Sionnach Glic]

Aye, I liked that one myself. I think it was the whole "Adama was sent on a secret mission and may have started the war!" thing.

That said, I now can't find where I originaly heard that it was non-canon, so maybe I'm getting it mixed up with something else. I know that there was an episode that Moore said didn't happen, but I'm damned if I know which one it was now.

[Mark]

How do you do an episode, and then just pretend it didn't exist?

[Captain Seafort]

The same way Braga decided that "Threshold" was non-canon - RDM evidently felt that the episode in question, be it "Hero" or something else, wasn't up to snuff.

[Mark]

The same way Braga decided that "Threshold" was non-canon - RDM evidently felt that the episode in question, be it "Hero" or something else, wasn't up to snuff.

When did THIS happen?

[Sionnach Glic]

What, Threshold becoming non-canon? Braga stated it a short while after the episode aired. He admitted it was total shite and decided to ditch it. He even had a brief mention that no one had ever traveled at Warp 10 just a few episodes later to underscore it.

[Sonic Glitch]

Aye, I liked that one myself. I think it was the whole "Adama was sent on a secret mission and may have started the war!" thing.

That said, I now can't find where I originaly heard that it was non-canon, so maybe I'm getting it mixed up with something else. I know that there was an episode that Moore said didn't happen, but I'm damned if I know which one it was now.

I don't think he was really happy with "Black Market" but that was Season 2 and maybe "The Woman King"? Idk, I could be making things up.

[Sionnach Glic]

I doubt that it was Black Market that was dropped. Fisk died in that one, which is a kind of important event.

[Mark]

I completely missed that one. Why not have it pulled from syndication then, I wonder?

[Mark]

Things have seemingly started to pick up in season three......but all this metaphysical crap is making me scratch my head. So, are Starbuck and Tyrel supposed to be some kids of prophets or something? And are the "final five" actual cylons or some kind of mythalogical avatars?

But I'll say this much. The actor portraying Gaius Baltar is fracking awesome. I was watching nBSG with a girlfriend (she's a stage actress) and we were sort of critiquing the acting a bit. The actors playing Starbuck, Apollo, Tyrell, and Gaeta are so so (Apollo could use a couple more acting lessons). The guy playing Tigh is pretty good too. Edward James Almos (spelling?) is always a hell of an actor no matter what he's doing (and HIS Adama is quickly becoming my favorite starship commander overall), but my god.....the guy playing Balter captures and portrays the ESSENCE of the man. You can almost feel his conflict personally.