The Finale

Re: The Finale

Postby Sionnach Glic » Mon Mar 30, 2009 3:49 pm

Katefan wrote:
I would rather say that we can agree to disagree. You obviously liked the series more than me and found elements in it that I am not picking up on. I think we can part like gentlemen on this...


Sounds good to me. :)

Although, it being the internet, it feels strange ending an argument without either one of us calling the other Hitler or a fucktard or something...


Heh, I tend to save the insults for people who deserve it.

Coalition wrote: For the Chief strangling Tory, did the Chief actually care for Cally, or wasn't there a comment he made about people marrying because there was nobody else available?


She was very firmly in second place up until Boomer's death on Galactica, at which point she was the next option for the Chief. Despite that, he did care strongly about her, even when they weren't in a relationship together.

Tsu wrote: Things I got from the finale:

1) this show was awesome.

2) Starbuck was a slut.

3) scrapping the ships was stupid.


Yeah, that's pretty much it. Oh, except for the hour-long space battle that kicked ass for the first half of the finale. :wink:
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Re: The Finale

Postby Tsukiyumi » Mon Mar 30, 2009 3:57 pm

Rochey wrote:
Tsu wrote: Things I got from the finale:

1) this show was awesome.

2) Starbuck was a slut.

3) scrapping the ships was stupid.


Yeah, that's pretty much it. Oh, except for the hour-long space battle that kicked ass for the first half of the finale. :wink:


That fell under "this show was awesome." :)
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Re: The Finale

Postby Sionnach Glic » Mon Mar 30, 2009 4:10 pm

Oh, good. 8)

One thing I liked about the show was its space battle sequences. There weren't many of them, but they always had a certain majesty to them. I particularly loved the bit in Ressurection Ship Part 2 where the Galactica and Pegasus seem to be "orbiting" one of the basestars as they pound it with their guns.

And, of course, we have the greatness of the Battle of New Caprica.
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Re: The Finale

Postby Atekimogus » Thu Sep 24, 2009 7:44 pm

So I finally got around watching season 4 and the finale and I must say I honestly did not like it. True there where some plot holes, a few things which did not make much sense etc. but on the whole I felt none of those things were really a dealbreaker.

The reason I did not like it very much was that you honestly could not feel good about anything or anyone off the characters and even with a new home to call their own everything was very depressing.

People you could feel sorry for.
Adama copes with the loss of Laura. Laura is dead. Apollo goes hippie, Starbuck....well....I honestly enjoyed the few episodes everyone thought her dead, Chief Tyrol is broken, Romo Lampkin is now president of a few cave dwellers, I bet he is very happy and everyone else who ever was a nice person is long dead at this point. (Billy, Felix, Dee etc.)

People who had not a happy but at least passable ending:
The Tigh family, Baltar and Caprica.

Lifeforms with a happy ending:
Centurions who are finally free but I have a hard time feeling happy for them. Helo and Athena, the only positive surprise because I was convinced at this point that Helo also bought it.
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And probalby most depressing of all, the fleet is gone, the beloved battlestar just gone and 150.000 years later you have proof positive that really nothing of this journey mattered because there is noone left to remember it and all memories of it are gone. Hera might have had some evolutionary role to play...but that is far from sure from my pov.


In conclusion I must say that the show had an excellent start and seasons one and two but became so depressing and demoralizing in s3 and s4 that is was almost hard to watch sometimes, treated the most likable characters very poorly and ended very depressingly.

ps. Was there a reason why they settled only on earth? I mean with the cylon threat gone why didn't some people go back to kobol for instance? Also a little outpost on new caprica might be worth thinking about because there surley is some infrastructure there.
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Re: The Finale

Postby Coalition » Fri Sep 25, 2009 11:11 am

Atekimogus wrote:And probalby most depressing of all, the fleet is gone, the beloved battlestar just gone and 150.000 years later you have proof positive that really nothing of this journey mattered because there is noone left to remember it and all memories of it are gone. Hera might have had some evolutionary role to play...but that is far from sure from my pov.


Agreed. At the very least, the ships would have provided help in case trouble occurred. Shelter, water reclamation, books, machine tools, etc. But no, all of it had to go into the sun. All it would have taken is one bad crop season, and the Colonial survirors would have been dead.

IMHO a better ending would have been where the Colonials got along with the Cylon Centurions, and they formed a unified culture. Eventually, they would have engineered themselves (nanotechnology and similar) until there was no physical difference between Centurion and organic. They take over the role of watching the galaxy, and helping developing races out.

Atekimogus wrote:ps. Was there a reason why they settled only on earth? I mean with the cylon threat gone why didn't some people go back to kobol for instance? Also a little outpost on new caprica might be worth thinking about because there surley is some infrastructure there.


Well, how many jumps were they from Kobol? They popped there during season 2 (Home, pt 1 & pt 2), and nothing after that. How far did they go from there to Earth? There was the supernova cluster that had the radiation fun (The Passage), plus a few other bits. At this point, Galactica is dead (cannot jump again), so they might as well stay where they are.
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Re: The Finale

Postby Atekimogus » Fri Sep 25, 2009 1:41 pm

Coalition wrote:Well, how many jumps were they from Kobol? They popped there during season 2 (Home, pt 1 & pt 2), and nothing after that. How far did they go from there to Earth? There was the supernova cluster that had the radiation fun (The Passage), plus a few other bits. At this point, Galactica is dead (cannot jump again), so they might as well stay where they are.


True, but one the other hand they are now in possession of a fully functional basestar and a fleet with cylon upgraded FTL drives plus with the whole threat of hostile cylons gone.
Now I am not saying they should divide the population immediatly and disperse on three different planets but it should be a short to mid-term goal. After about 10-15 years used to repair and refuel the fleet minus galactica they would surley be able to do so given what we have seen.

As for Galactica, the most logical conclusion would be to finally take up the torch and were she left it and become a museum ship. You do not, repeat after me, do not stear the single one ship resonsible for the survivial of the human race into the sun. (This was about on the same level as the destruction of the E-D.)

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Re: The Finale

Postby Sionnach Glic » Sat Sep 26, 2009 8:32 pm

Personaly I like the think that Anders, halfway to the sun, decided "screw this" and took the fleet off for a joyride through the galaxy. Perhaps teaming up with the surviving Centurions.
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Re: The Finale

Postby SuperSaiyaMan12 » Sat Oct 03, 2009 10:23 pm

Sionnach Glic wrote:Personaly I like the think that Anders, halfway to the sun, decided "screw this" and took the fleet off for a joyride through the galaxy. Perhaps teaming up with the surviving Centurions.

"Screw the plan I have the ships." A take on "Screw the Rules I have money" from Yugioh: The Abridged Series. :P
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Re: The Finale

Postby Tsukiyumi » Sun Oct 04, 2009 8:50 pm

I love that show. :D
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Re: The Finale

Postby Monroe » Sat Jan 22, 2011 5:03 pm

I watched the entire series this last few months in my free time and I gotta say its one of my favorite shows yet. I didn't like the whole abandoning technology and living on Earth thing but overall I enjoyed the storyline. It was one hell of a run. Its a shame they can't go further along in the storyline.
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Re: The Finale

Postby Coalition » Mon Jan 24, 2011 10:14 pm

Monroe wrote:I watched the entire series this last few months in my free time and I gotta say its one of my favorite shows yet. I didn't like the whole abandoning technology and living on Earth thing but overall I enjoyed the storyline. It was one hell of a run. Its a shame they can't go further along in the storyline.


He likely had to end it with a definite finish, to avoid being dragged back to make another series, or watch another director get handed the series and totally ruin it.
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Re: The Finale

Postby Mark » Mon Jan 24, 2011 11:55 pm

They should have got tossed back in time, and been the seeds that planted the colonies.
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Re: The Finale

Postby SolkaTruesilver » Wed Jan 26, 2011 2:04 pm

Mark wrote:They should have got tossed back in time, and been the seeds that planted the colonies.


Haven't you learned anything from Enterprise?

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Re: The Finale

Postby Sonic Glitch » Wed Jan 26, 2011 11:17 pm

SolkaTruesilver wrote:
Mark wrote:They should have got tossed back in time, and been the seeds that planted the colonies.


Haven't you learned anything from Enterprise?

Aesop 1: Time Travel never solved anything. :poke:

Haven't you learned anything from Stargate?

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Re: The Finale

Postby SolkaTruesilver » Thu Jan 27, 2011 3:21 pm

Sonic Glitch wrote:
SolkaTruesilver wrote:
Mark wrote:They should have got tossed back in time, and been the seeds that planted the colonies.


Haven't you learned anything from Enterprise?

Aesop 1: Time Travel never solved anything. :poke:

Haven't you learned anything from Stargate?

There are no fish in my pond.


Never watched Stargate, so such knowledge is sadly absent from my mind. :oops:

And... I am sorry, I don't get what you mean by fishes and pond. Is that an expression?
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