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Re: Rise Like Lions - Defiant class numbers problem

Postby Mikey » Sat Aug 27, 2016 6:44 pm

Same principles apply, no matter the degree.
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Re: Rise Like Lions - Defiant class numbers problem

Postby Graham Kennedy » Sat Aug 27, 2016 7:46 pm

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Graham Kennedy wrote:Nothing suggests that the problems were something only he was qualified to fix, though.


Except for the fact that the entire Starfleet R&D department couldn't

Nowhere is it stated that this is so. In the Chase they state that problems came up during development, but the reason given for shelving the Defiant was that "the Borg threat became less urgent", presumably a reference to the defeat of the first cube at Earth. Had they decided to continue with development, it's entirely likely that they would have fixed the problems just as quickly as O'Brien did. Or quicker.
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Re: Rise Like Lions - Defiant class numbers problem

Postby Graham Kennedy » Sat Aug 27, 2016 7:49 pm

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Graham Kennedy wrote:It really doesn't appear to be. In fact it appears to be extremely easy and quick to build them, to judge from the canon.


We have seen maybe six total though? If the Defiantis easy to build and considering the ships or at least the Defiant herself is a very powerful ship, there should be more of them. Alot of them. Thry,are practically perfect for war against the Dominion.

We actually saw very little of the war against the Dominion, though. The great majority of that war happened offscreen. Nor do we know if the parts we did see were remotely representative of what we didn't.
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Re: Rise Like Lions - Defiant class numbers problem

Postby McAvoy » Sat Aug 27, 2016 7:57 pm

True. There could easily be 200 Defiants out there on the front lines. Then there could be 20.

Considering that what we saw was a mix match of different ship types, you could argue the other fleets could be similar in con position too. Unless Starfleet really does like DS9 to have a bunch of GCS. Of course if the fleet composition was similar to other areas of,conflict, then Starfleet has alot of Galaxy class ships.
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Re: Rise Like Lions - Defiant class numbers problem

Postby Captain Seafort » Sat Aug 27, 2016 8:34 pm

McAvoy wrote:Unless Starfleet really does like DS9 to have a bunch of GCS.


Which it probably does, given that it's the single most important strategic location in the entire quadrant.
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Re: Rise Like Lions - Defiant class numbers problem

Postby Coalition » Sun Aug 28, 2016 9:48 pm

McAvoy wrote: There is a huge difference between the Mirror Universe and the Primeverse in terms of manpower, resources, experienced specialists, and so forth.


Let alone access to those resources. Primeverse can move specialists around as they choose within the Federation, while the Mirror-verse has far more limitations on what humanity can do.

Also, mirrorverse resources appear to be going for skimpier/kinkier outfits for the women, rather than combat materials to protect from the next threat. For some reason, nobody has complained about that diversion. :roll:
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Re: Rise Like Lions - Defiant class numbers problem

Postby Griffin » Mon Aug 29, 2016 2:03 pm

Surely skimpier clothes saves resources.
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Re: Rise Like Lions - Defiant class numbers problem

Postby McAvoy » Tue Aug 30, 2016 12:51 am

Coalition wrote:
McAvoy wrote: There is a huge difference between the Mirror Universe and the Primeverse in terms of manpower, resources, experienced specialists, and so forth.


Let alone access to those resources. Primeverse can move specialists around as they choose within the Federation, while the Mirror-verse has far more limitations on what humanity can do.

Also, mirrorverse resources appear to be going for skimpier/kinkier outfits for the women, rather than combat materials to protect from the next threat. For some reason, nobody has complained about that diversion. :roll:


Maybe it's related to the porno style lesbianism going on over there.
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