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Postby alexmann » Sun May 29, 2011 8:51 pm

If and When a ship gets taken over surely the computer should be programmed to lock itself and all primary systems from used by unauthorised personel and possibly even disable environmental control to kill all invaders rather than simply cooperating?
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Re: Computer Security

Postby alexmann » Sun May 29, 2011 8:53 pm

For Example, when the Prometheus was taken over not only did the computer cooperate with the Romulans, but it locked out the com system and Environmental control from its own EMH!
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Re: Computer Security

Postby Captain Seafort » Sun May 29, 2011 9:01 pm

This is Starfleet we're talking about - their computer security is notoriously lacking. You would, of course, expect sensitive areas of the ship to require swipe-and-pin, or similar, to access. You would not expect the main computer to run unknown alien code. You would not expect a warship's computer to have a remote access login function that can't be disabled. You would not expect a ship's systems to be so centralised that one decent hacker could shut the whole thing down, including small arms. Unfortunately we've seen all of this from the Feds. They should have chosen an OS with better security - any version of Windows, for example.
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Re: Computer Security

Postby alexmann » Mon May 30, 2011 5:40 am

Captain Seafort wrote:This is Starfleet we're talking about - their computer security is notoriously lacking. You would, of course, expect sensitive areas of the ship to require swipe-and-pin, or similar, to access. You would not expect the main computer to run unknown alien code. You would not expect a warship's computer to have a remote access login function that can't be disabled. You would not expect a ship's systems to be so centralised that one decent hacker could shut the whole thing down, including small arms. Unfortunately we've seen all of this from the Feds. They should have chosen an OS with better security - any version of Windows, for example.


To be honest, windows is pretty bad. Even I could hack in.
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Re: Computer Security

Postby Captain Seafort » Mon May 30, 2011 10:43 am

alexmann wrote:To be honest, windows is pretty bad. Even I could hack in.


Exactly my point.
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Re: Computer Security

Postby alexmann » Mon May 30, 2011 10:49 am

Hell you probably wouldn't need to hack in, just ask the computer politely
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Re: Computer Security

Postby Captain Seafort » Mon May 30, 2011 10:53 am

alexmann wrote:Hell you probably wouldn't need to hack in, just ask the computer politely


On occasion you don't even need to do that much - on at least one occasion a couple of kids managed to get into main engineering with no computer intervention whatsoever.
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Re: Computer Security

Postby alexmann » Mon May 30, 2011 10:55 am

Just Imagine one of them. "Computer, can you let me have a look inside the warp core"
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Re: Computer Security

Postby Captain Seafort » Mon May 30, 2011 10:57 am

Fortunately the dilithium articulation frame is manually operated. It's probably got power assist, but you have to physically unlatch the thing to open it. Just as well, probably.
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Re: Computer Security

Postby alexmann » Mon May 30, 2011 10:58 am

Good Idea. Hmmmmmm, I wonder what this Big Red Button does (If they still have buttons then)
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Re: Computer Security

Postby Mikey » Mon May 30, 2011 1:27 pm

It ties up the bulk of the computer's capacity in an effort to make tea.
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Re: Computer Security

Postby Captain Seafort » Mon May 30, 2011 1:31 pm

Mikey wrote:It ties up the bulk of the computer's capacity in an effort to make tea.


Rather than something almost (but not quite) entirely unlike tea? Hmm. When did Picard start drinking Earl Grey, and is there a correlation with the more egregious examples of poor computer security?
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Re: Computer Security

Postby McAvoy » Mon May 30, 2011 2:31 pm

Lol

As far as early TNG I highly doubt the writers knew enough of computers back then to represent 24th century computers. I really can't fault them for that. But basic security issues could have been resolved as mentioned above.
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Re: Computer Security

Postby alexmann » Mon May 30, 2011 4:03 pm

The computers back then were probably more secure!
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Re: Computer Security

Postby McAvoy » Mon May 30, 2011 4:54 pm

No wide spread internet back in 1987 so hardly any viruses so yeah I guess.

There is a huge difference between common knowledge of computers back during TNG's time and today. Not trying to defend it, just saying.

Then again modern sci fi shows like Stargate has similar issues. Earth, Wraith, Ancient Asurans, Goa'uld technology has similar issues with computers.
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