Civilian Ships

[kostmayer]

From what I've read, an armoured car isn't supposed to survive a full on attack, just survive long enough to escape from an ambush.

[Mikey]

From what I've read, an armoured car isn't supposed to survive a full on attack, just survive long enough to escape from an ambush.

I think it's more a question of "incapable" rather than "not supposed to." If you read the link Tsu posted about "Cadillac One," you'll notice it's built on the chassis of a C4500... which I used to sell as 17,500-lb. or 19,500-lb. dump trucks. "Normal" armored cars are necessarily built on light-duty sedan chassis, and therefore cannot feasibly carry enough protection to do any more than hold proof against light small-arms fire. I say light, because I can't think of an armored car that's proof against one of the big hunting revolvers, like a Casull or one of them big .750 Russian 5-shooters.

[stitch626]

Ah, yes. Nothing like that is sold in our area. Instead, any "armoured" cars sold here are simply the same vehicle with a few mm of steel instead of thin metal + fiberglass.

From this, I think the problem is one of terminology. An armoured car is not a civvie car with armour - it's one of these.

Oh yeah, definite difference in terminology.

[Mikey]

From this, I think the problem is one of terminology. An armoured car is not a civvie car with armour - it's one of these.

Certainly not to what I had referred. You'd know the military nomenclature better than I, but if you put a gun to my head and told me to ID that thing, I'd call it a very small IFV.

[Reliant121]

I've always thought of Armoured Cars as the sort of mini german tanks employed in world war II. I didnt even know you could get standard road cars with armour plating on them.

[Captain Seafort]

if you put a gun to my head and told me to ID that thing, I'd call it a very small IFV.

Eh? What do you think the "I" in IFV stands for? Look at the thing - how do you expect to fit any more than the crew in that. Very small AFV, sure, and that's what it is - "armoured car" is simply a more specific term.

I didnt even know you could get standard road cars with armour plating on them.

You can't - you can get custom-modified (or at most very limited production) road cars with armour plating.

[Reliant121]

Ah, so this would be a trend of plating your car with thin bullet proof material.

Unless in American its more common than it is here. I have to admit it gave me the rather ridiculous image of a Fiat Panda in armour plating.

[stitch626]

Ah, so this would be a trend of plating your car with thin bullet proof material.

Unless in American its more common than it is here. I have to admit it gave me the rather ridiculous image of a Fiat Panda in armour plating.

Usually it is done with Crown Vics and other large sedans (only the armoured ones though, not the stock models).

[Lazar]

You can't - you can get custom-modified (or at most very limited production) road cars with armour plating.

I've heard that custom-made armored SUVs are popular among affluent people in Mexico City, because there's an epidemic of people being kidnapped right out of their cars.

[Mikey]

Ah, so this would be a trend of plating your car with thin bullet proof material.

Unless in American its more common than it is here. I have to admit it gave me the rather ridiculous image of a Fiat Panda in armour plating.

Nothing of the sort. As Seafort vaguely alluded to, you can't just take a production vehicle and put armor and bullet-resistant glass on it, any more than you can make a streched vehicle simply by cutting it apart and adding a bit in the middle. The chassis has to be specially reinforced; the A, B, and C pillars have to be stiffened and strenghtened; etc. In addition, the process generally involves strengthening and cladding the rims so the vehicle can drive without one or more tires.

[Vic]

You can't - you can get custom-modified (or at most very limited production) road cars with armour plating.

I've heard that custom-made armored SUVs are popular among affluent people in Mexico City, because there's an epidemic of people being kidnapped right out of their cars.

Yes, kidnapping is the new national sport of Mexico, eclipsing even football.

[Mark]

My uncle had a friend who had an armored Mercedez Benz. He was affiliated with some criminal elements in Chicago......so it made sense for him.

[Sonic Glitch]

My uncle had a friend who had an armored Mercedez Benz. He was affiliated with ^{some criminal elements in} Chicago......so it made sense for him.

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[Vic]

Wait, isn't Chicago a criminal element?

[Sionnach Glic]

My uncle had a friend who had an armored Mercedez Benz. He was affiliated with some criminal elements in Chicago......so it made sense for him.

Edited for accuracy.

Fixed.