Why is it USS?

Blackstar the Chakat · Tue Sep 18, 2007 1:40 pm

It doesn't make sense to me. They're introduced as the federation star ship (insert name) Shouldn't it be FSS name then? I think only Kirk introduced his ship as the United Star/space (he has used both) ship Enterprise. And the USS is so Americanized whereas something like FSS isn't affiliated with any country I know of.

Post by **Teaos** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 1:43 pm

United star systems. It makes sense.

Although it does sound like the USA I cant really blame them since they made the series. I do give them credit though for putting a government in Paris and not America.

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 4:55 pm

1) The series is made in the US.

2) I think it stands for United Star Ship Enterprise. Although the idea of an un-united starship is pretty odd...

Blackstar the Chakat · Tue Sep 18, 2007 5:34 pm

Rochey wrote:1) The series is made in the US.

2) I think it stands for United Star Ship Enterprise. Although the idea of an un-united starship is pretty odd...

@1 The show is placed in a time when the USA doesn't seem to exist. I think the only evidence otherwise is when Kirk says he's from the state of Iowa. If this was the Stargate series that would make sense because it takes place in the USA but there is no USA in Star Trek.

@2 maybe mutinies were common at some point?

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 5:48 pm

1 The show is placed in a time when the USA doesn't seem to exist. I think the only evidence otherwise is when Kirk says he's from the state of Iowa. If this was the Stargate series that would make sense because it takes place in the USA but there is no USA in Star Trek.

You are indeed correct there, from an out of universe perspective I was pointing out that the writers could have been influenced by that.

@2 maybe mutinies were common at some point?

Possible. So would a mutinous ship have to anounce itslef as the Divided Star Ship Enterprise?

Enkidu · Post by **Enkidu** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 6:31 pm

The TOS is fairly indecisive about which organization the Enterprise belongs to, United Earth Space Probe Agency and several other organizations are mentioned, if memory serves. Makes it harder to pin the USS meaning down. Personally, I always chalked the USS up to the fact it is an American series.

Deepcrush · Post by **Deepcrush** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 7:24 pm

'U'nited 'S'ystems 'S'tarship

robjkay · Post by **robjkay** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 11:26 pm

Its suppose to be United Space Ship.

Here is a link to it.

http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/USS

DSG2k · Post by **DSG2k** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 11:53 pm

UFPSS (or UESPASS) would've defeated the purpose of an acronym.

celeritas · Post by **celeritas** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 12:10 am

Teaos wrote:I do give them credit though for putting a government in Paris and not America.

the government is in paris?

Blackstar the Chakat · Wed Sep 19, 2007 12:37 am

DSG2k wrote:UFPSS (or UESPASS) would've defeated the purpose of an acronym.

True but they're always introducing the ships as Federation Star Ships so an acronym like FSS would be appropriate.

Azrael · Post by **Azrael** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 1:55 am

I don't think they abolished the countries, just the individual goverments and formed one united goverment.

Post by **Teaos** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 2:04 am

the government is in paris?

Yeah I'm pretty sure the Federation council are in Paris.

RK_Striker_JK_5 · Post by **RK_Striker_JK_5** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 4:40 am

Teaos wrote:
the government is in paris?
Yeah I'm pretty sure the Federation council are in Paris.

The President's Office is, yes. Not sure about the Council, though.

Monroe · Post by **Monroe** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:27 am

Teaos wrote:
the government is in paris?
Yeah I'm pretty sure the Federation council are in Paris.

That explains Star Fleet's approach to military.

Sorry >.>