Did Sarek and T'Pau do a little Pon-Farr?

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Did Sarek and T'Pau do a little Pon-Farr?

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Consider this if you will:
Sybok was born of Sarek and an unnamed Vulcan princess according to STV.
In 'Amok Time' TOS, Kirk mentions that he had no idea that Spock's family was so well connected, to have T'Pau officiate at this wedding.
The age difference between T'Pau and Sarek is approximately 40 yrs.
In STIII, a much older Saavik leads the quickly aging, katra-less Spock through his first Pon-Farr.
Could T'Pau have been a princess? Would that have lead her down the path of becoming "the only person to turn down a seat on the Federation Council"?
And did her connection to Sarek, lead to her officiating at the Spocks wedding , and further saving his Starfleet friends from backlash for diverting to Vulcan?
No proof of it, but interesting speculation to be sure.
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Speculation to be sure. I'm trying to think of something to refute this, and quite honestly, I can't. That makes it as legitimate an explanation as any other. I'm gonna do an online search for any prior extended universe sources (not that they're canon) to suggest something of the sort or refute it, but for now, your idea is as solid and salacious as any =)
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That's an excellent idea you have there!

Nobody ever said T'Pau was a princess... but she certainly could be in TOS.

And in Ent... well how many young royals go through a rebel phase!

Love the concept!
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Does the STV script actually say Vulcan Princess?
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Bryan Moore wrote:Does the STV script actually say Vulcan Princess?
I thought the line was "Vulcan Priestess".
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Nope, the line is indeed "Vulcan Princess".

T'Pau was never referred to as a Princess in Enterprise. However, we don't know Vulcan custom in this regard. And even if she wasn't, she could have married into royalty after Enterprise and became a princess, then did the nasty with Sarek. There's decades during which she could have become a Princess one way or another.

FYI, the timeline is :

2152 T'Pau travels to the T'Karath sanctuary in The Forge. She remains here continuously for at least the next two years.

2154 The Earth embassy on Vulcan is badly damaged by a terrorist bomb, killing doezens of people - including Admiral Forrest... events of the Vulcan civil war arc.

2165 Sarek is born.

2224 Sybok is born. A son of Sarek, Sybok is Spock's elder half brother. (non canon date from the chronology)

2230 Spock is born.

2267 Spock undergoes Pon Farr; he is rejected by T'Pring and continues to serve in Starfleet. T'Pau officiates at his wedding.

2368 Sarek dies of Bendii Syndrome.

We don't have a date for T'Pau's birth. My impression was that she was young in her Enterprise appearence, though young-looking is a very relative term for a Vulcan. She must have been 20 at a minimum I think, but could easily have been 40 or more. Calling it 30, her DOB would be 2124. She would have been 100 years old when Sybok was born, while Sarek would have been 60.
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The pomp and circumstance afforded to her in TOS: "Amok Time," as well as the very fact that she presided over anything at all, certainly indicates an elevated station in life - even if she was never canonically stated to be a "princess" specifically.
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Dammit Jim, I'm a princess...not a bricklayer...oops...wrong quote..my bad!
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GrahamKennedy wrote:That's an excellent idea you have there!

Nobody ever said T'Pau was a princess... but she certainly could be in TOS.

And in Ent... well how many young royals go through a rebel phase!

Love the concept!

Indeed. In fact, we don't KNOW what would make a Vulcan be considered a Princess. Is that a secular title or a spiritual one for them? Is it one that can be earned or achieved? If she wasn't already (and lord knows in ENT she was arrogant enough), maybe she was MADE a princess for showing Vulcans the "true" path.

But, I DO think T'Pau may be a bit biased of her namesake :lol:
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Agreed on the role. It's possible one can be elevated to royalty through accomplishments, acquiring sufficient power, etc.
But, I DO think T'Pau may be a bit biased of her namesake :lol:
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