Any Star Trek ships capable of performing a BDZ operation?
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Incidental music I wouldn't mind, but the sound-in-a-vacuum thing always got to me; except for the fact that "suspension of disbelief" is meant to relate to the technicalities of watching a TV show, as well as the pseudo-science within it.
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Re: Any Star Trek ships capable of performing a BDZ operation?
Just throwing it out there, space is not a perfect vacuum so isn't it possible that there may be enough particles to transmit some sound? And if you're fighting in a nebula, theres gasses everywhere to provide a medium for sound (see: Mutara or Omarion(the founders nebula, not sure on spelling)). As for explosions and what not, there are combustible(able?) materials in the ships, I would say those are what we see burning which is why its generally "quick-burst, boom done" not long drawn-out fire, explosion etc....Except in rare cases, i.e. destruction of Enterprise 1701
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Depends on how you define sound. Put it this way; there's simply no way you can hear a spaceship flying past you in space. No way whatsoever.
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Yep. Any media for sound in space would be too discontinuous or far apart to transmit it from source to observer.GrahamKennedy wrote:Depends on how you define sound. Put it this way; there's simply no way you can hear a spaceship flying past you in space. No way whatsoever.
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You could, however, install a system on your ship that interprets sensor information audibly as well as visually, making the best use of all human senses, rather than just the eyes. It is after all a lot more intuitive to react to a sound coming from behind you than a blip on a screen. It would be best used for fighters, where reactions times are most important, but there's no reason why it couldn't be installed on larger ships.GrahamKennedy wrote:Depends on how you define sound. Put it this way; there's simply no way you can hear a spaceship flying past you in space. No way whatsoever.
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What, have a 3-D surround sound system in the cockpit and then have the computer synthesise a sound that sounded like it was coming from wherever the ship near you was? Yes, I suppose you could do that. Seems like a rather peculiar idea, but it's certainly possible.Captain Seafort wrote:You could, however, install a system on your ship that interprets sensor information audibly as well as visually
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Exactly - as I said, it would be a lot quicker and more intuitive than having to interpret a visual sensor display.GrahamKennedy wrote:What, have a 3-D surround sound system in the cockpit and then have the computer synthesise a sound that sounded like it was coming from wherever the ship near you was? Yes, I suppose you could do that. Seems like a rather peculiar idea, but it's certainly possible.
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I can see that it might be. Then again it might not; you'd have to try it and see.Captain Seafort wrote:Exactly - as I said, it would be a lot quicker and more intuitive than having to interpret a visual sensor display.GrahamKennedy wrote:What, have a 3-D surround sound system in the cockpit and then have the computer synthesise a sound that sounded like it was coming from wherever the ship near you was? Yes, I suppose you could do that. Seems like a rather peculiar idea, but it's certainly possible.
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That sounds like a damn good idea. Would help keep you focused.
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I'd think it could be quite distracting myself. If I'm focused on a scanner display and the sound system suddenly pumps some noise into my ear... might miss something crucial.
I gather they did an awful lot of work on the audio warning and voice command systems they are starting to use on fighters for exactly that reason. Really don't want to distract a pilot with a noise in his ear at just the wrong moment!
I gather they did an awful lot of work on the audio warning and voice command systems they are starting to use on fighters for exactly that reason. Really don't want to distract a pilot with a noise in his ear at just the wrong moment!
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The details of the system would have to be carefully worked out so such distractions are avoided. Setting a limit on the volume would be an important one.GrahamKennedy wrote:I'd think it could be quite distracting myself. If I'm focused on a scanner display and the sound system suddenly pumps some noise into my ear... might miss something crucial.
I a big part of the problem with Nagging Nora was that pilots were having to actively listen to what the thing was saying, which distrcted them from flying. I think a simple noise to intuitively convey a nearby ship's bearing and distance would be a lot simpler than spoken instructions or information.I gather they did an awful lot of work on the audio warning and voice command systems they are starting to use on fighters for exactly that reason. Really don't want to distract a pilot with a noise in his ear at just the wrong moment!
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I think a simple directional alarm would work out better than a recreation of the "real" sound - one can train oneself to react a certain way to an alarm, but no matter how cool you are the sound of a pair of giant turbofans coming up behind you will tend to produce a distracting visceral reaction.
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Re: Any Star Trek ships capable of performing a BDZ operation?
Actually... they mention something like that in the Star Wars EU. An audio interpretation device or something along those lines. *Shrugs* It was an in-universe explanation for sound in space. Because, you know, suspension of disbelief's not enough...
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That's actually a great idea. Also if sound did transmit like light then the sound of those explosions would be so great it would be deafening.Captain Seafort wrote:You could, however, install a system on your ship that interprets sensor information audibly as well as visually, making the best use of all human senses, rather than just the eyes. It is after all a lot more intuitive to react to a sound coming from behind you than a blip on a screen. It would be best used for fighters, where reactions times are most important, but there's no reason why it couldn't be installed on larger ships.GrahamKennedy wrote:Depends on how you define sound. Put it this way; there's simply no way you can hear a spaceship flying past you in space. No way whatsoever.
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Really? Which book / comic / game?RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:Actually... they mention something like that in the Star Wars EU. An audio interpretation device or something along those lines. *Shrugs* It was an in-universe explanation for sound in space. Because, you know, suspension of disbelief's not enough...
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