Best Trek Movie Moment 9: Insurrection

[Aaron]

They weren't trying to kill the E-E, well not officially, they were trying to escort it back to the Ba'ku planet so they wouldn't contact the Federation.

And the line they'd be crossing, is the one where you destroy a ship in the same fleet as your own. That's usually not condoned in any armed forces I know of.

That would be determined by an investigation of the incident, in this instance Picard and crew were traitors disobeying the lawful command of the government. A RL government would probably throw them in the stockade.

[stitch626]

Were the Sona actually part of the federation, or was it a temp allience.

[Captain Seafort]

They weren't trying to kill the E-E, well not officially, they were trying to escort it back to the Ba'ku planet so they wouldn't contact the Federation.

"Escorting it back" and "hitting it with weapons of mass destruction" are somewhat mutually exclusive.

And the line they'd be crossing, is the one where you destroy a ship in the same fleet as your own. That's usually not condoned in any armed forces I know of.

Neither are mutiny or treason, and since Picard and his crew had already committed both I doubt destroying a Fed ship would have made matters that much worse.

[Aaron]

Were the Sona actually part of the federation, or was it a temp allience.

Just an alliance, apperently they made White for the Dominion previously.

[Blackstar the Chakat]

"Escorting it back" and "hitting it with weapons of mass destruction" are somewhat mutually exclusive.

When did they do that? They fired an unpridicable weapon, but there's no evidence that it was a "weapon of mass destruction".

And the line they'd be crossing, is the one where you destroy a ship in the same fleet as your own. That's usually not condoned in any armed forces I know of.

Neither are mutiny or treason, and since Picard and his crew had already committed both I doubt destroying a Fed ship would have made matters that much worse.

Purhaps not from your point of view, but that's still a Starfleet ship they'd be destroying. They could have friends on there, people they've worked with. People they've fought side by side with. mutiny and treason are one thing, but shooting your friends is a whole different issue.

[Mikey]

They could have friends on there, people they've worked with. People they've fought side by side with. mutiny and treason are one thing, but shooting your friends is a whole different issue.

All of whom are already trying to kill you.

[Bryan Moore]

Space battle. Honestly wasn't a huge fan of the movie. But the battle was interesting.

[Captain Seafort]

When did they do that? They fired an unpridicable weapon, but there's no evidence that it was a "weapon of mass destruction".

A weapon that created a "subspace tear" somewhat similar to the rift that everyone freaked out over in "Force of Nature", and very nearly destroyed the Enterprise.

That's on top of the dozens of WMDs they'd already hit the E-E with - photon torpedoes. I'd say that calling weapons that are dozens or hundreds of times as powerful as the Hiroshima bomb "weapons of mass destruction" is pretty accurate.

[RK_Striker_JK_5]

"When does it become wrong?" wins my vote. When does it become wrong?

[Blackstar the Chakat]

When did they do that? They fired an unpridicable weapon, but there's no evidence that it was a "weapon of mass destruction".

A weapon that created a "subspace tear" somewhat similar to the rift that everyone freaked out over in "Force of Nature", and very nearly destroyed the Enterprise.

That's on top of the dozens of WMDs they'd already hit the E-E with - photon torpedoes. I'd say that calling weapons that are dozens or hundreds of times as powerful as the Hiroshima bomb "weapons of mass destruction" is pretty accurate.

WMD's are all relative. Now for us a Photon Torpedoe might be a WMD, but for them that's a fairly average weapon.

And since it didn't hit the E-E we don't know, what effect it has. For all we know it could tear the ship apart or it could just knock everyone out of their chairs. Subspace weapons are unpridictable like that. That's why they were banned.

[kostmayer]

I want to know how long they've been fitting Starships with Joysticks.

The builders must have been of the Tom Paris school of design.

[Captain Seafort]

WMD's are all relative. Now for us a Photon Torpedoe might be a WMD, but for them that's a fairly average weapon.

Davy Crocketts are fairly "meh" weapons for us, given the power of ICBMs, but they're still WMDs because they still make a hell of a mess.

And since it didn't hit the E-E we don't know, what effect it has. For all we know it could tear the ship apart or it could just knock everyone out of their chairs.

The presence of a subspace tear was treated as a set-piece "oh shit" moment, so we can safely conclude that it would have either destroyed or seriously damaged the E-E had it not been sealed.

Subspace weapons are unpridictable like that. That's why they were banned.

Unpredictable =/= don't know what sort of damage it's going to do. Geordi's comment was specifically in reference to whether the tear could be sealed by detonating the warp core - there was never any suggestion that it would be ineffective as a weapon.