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Deepcrush wrote:Thats fine. You can also choose how to outfit them. This includes the weapons and vehicle choices.
It'll likely be light infantry, if I can find a decent write up of what weapons and vehicles are available.
Your infantry just needs an appropriate transport.

(Light infantry, in a heavy transport :mrgreen: )

Seriously, I'd go with the heavy APC, either Hover, Tracked, or Wheeled. These are only armed with a pair of machine guns each, so I'd look for something that had an LRM in the turret (for infantry directed indirect fire). You'll likely have to give up something from the 6 ton infantry bay (from Aerotech Second Edition Revised Foot infantry takes up 5 tons for 28 people, Jump infantry takes up 6 tons for 21 people, and Mechanized infantry takes up 7 tons for 28 people).

If you want cheap, I'd carry half a platoon per APC, giving you 3 tons available. That is enough for an LRM-5 and a ton of ammo. Two of these APCs are used to carry your foot platoon, and the platoon's whole job is to hide in trees, and call in strikes. The APCs' job is to hide behind a hill, and do indirect fire.

For other vehicles:
H-7
Planet Lifter
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Coalition wrote:A Clan campaign? That prevents my economic go-happy fun, and lets the GM assign to us what is needed, rather than the players trying to take every advantage they could.
Umm, no. The GM can't let you go around writing up your own missions and payouts.
Not writing up my own missions, but as a proper merc I'd be doing my best to get auxiliary income sources. Besides the obvious of a Mechwarrior selling a multi-million C-Bill machine and retiring at the age of 20.
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Cpl Kendall wrote:
Deepcrush wrote:
Thats fine. You can also choose how to outfit them. This includes the weapons and vehicle choices.
It'll likely be light infantry, if I can find a decent write up of what weapons and vehicles are available.
There are several sites that offer information about BT equipment.

http://www.classicbattletech.com/
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Main_Page

Both provide information on Canon items for use in the RP. Also remember that a lot of the light vehicles in BT aren't much different then they are today. So, you could have a 1940's style half track with a micro-fusion power cell. Its really up to you. What you have to be careful with is the weapons and armor you deploy. Those have more strict abilities and limits.
Coalition wrote:Not writing up my own missions, but as a proper merc I'd be doing my best to get auxiliary income sources. Besides the obvious of a Mechwarrior selling a multi-million C-Bill machine and retiring at the age of 20.
There's no reason that as the game progresses you can't do that. BUT, for starting, we are starting small.
For other vehicles:
H-7
Planet Lifter
Do these items have Canon links? Or at least Canon starters?
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Deepcrush wrote:
Coalition wrote:Not writing up my own missions, but as a proper merc I'd be doing my best to get auxiliary income sources. Besides the obvious of a Mechwarrior selling a multi-million C-Bill machine and retiring at the age of 20.
There's no reason that as the game progresses you can't do that. BUT, for starting, we are starting small.
Most Mechs are multi-million C-Bills. Well, maybe not all of them, as the original Locust-1V is only 1.5 million. If I had one of those in the BTverse, I could sell it and live on ~30,000 per year for 50 years (minus taxes, plus interest). From the FASA Mercenary Handbook (#1701) on page 9 of the print copy, a median income citizen earns 750 C-Bills every 2 weeks, or 19,500 C-Bills per year.

That is another reason I went with vehicles, as a Schrek for example costs 3.825 million, but has 6 crew. That is 637,500 per person, or about 30 years of living, on ~20,000 per year.

Still, I don't think the GM wants to hear, "I'm selling my Mech and retiring" in the first session. The easy method is to make it where the player characters don't own the Mechs or vehicles.
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For other vehicles:
H-7 (lots of fun if you use Armor piercing ammo)
Planet Lifter
Do these items have Canon links? Or at least Canon starters?
What are 'Canon starters'?

As for canon links, solaris7.com essentially copied the Tech Manuals onto those pages. It makes for a great lookup tool. If I had the actual TRO 3026 (one of the few I am missing), I'd be able to confirm the stats from those links. Theother option is I use the BT books to build them again, trying to keep close to the stats above. Sarna.net is a nice site, but solaris7 gives the specific stats.

Compare the Savannah Master from Sarna.net, and from Solaris7.com.
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For other vehicles:
H-7 (lots of fun if you use Armor piercing ammo)
Planet Lifter
Do these items have Canon links? Or at least Canon starters?
What are 'Canon starters'?

As for canon links, solaris7.com essentially copied the Tech Manuals onto those pages. It makes for a great lookup tool. If I had the actual TRO 3026 (one of the few I am missing), I'd be able to confirm the stats from those links. Theother option is I use the BT books to build them again, trying to keep close to the stats above. Sarna.net is a nice site, but solaris7 gives the specific stats.

Compare the Savannah Master from Sarna.net, and from Solaris7.com.
Both of those are ok, the H7 is pretty much spot on for the 3026 book, for the newest construction rules take out the 1/4 ton of sensors and drop the SRM-4 to a SRM-2 and your golden. the Planet lifter is one of those that is AFU for the new rules and requires a new build altogether. If I were to go with specialised ammo for the AC/2 it would be guided not AP, too many damn minuses to actually pierce armor.
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Coalition wrote:Most Mechs are multi-million C-Bills. Well, maybe not all of them, as the original Locust-1V is only 1.5 million. If I had one of those in the BTverse, I could sell it and live on ~30,000 per year for 50 years (minus taxes, plus interest). From the FASA Mercenary Handbook (#1701) on page 9 of the print copy, a median income citizen earns 750 C-Bills every 2 weeks, or 19,500 C-Bills per year.

That is another reason I went with vehicles, as a Schrek for example costs 3.825 million, but has 6 crew. That is 637,500 per person, or about 30 years of living, on ~20,000 per year.

Still, I don't think the GM wants to hear, "I'm selling my Mech and retiring" in the first session. The easy method is to make it where the player characters don't own the Mechs or vehicles.
Well, seeing that you'll be a starting pilot for which ever faction you choose. Its a safe bet you don't own your own mech. So, if you decided to sell it. The owners would come after you and kill you for the effort. Plus a little common sense on your part should say I'm not just going to give every player a couple million c-bills to start with.
Coalition wrote:What are 'Canon starters'?
It means an item that started as Canon but that has been customized.
Coalition wrote:As for canon links, solaris7.com essentially copied the Tech Manuals onto those pages. It makes for a great lookup tool. If I had the actual TRO 3026 (one of the few I am missing), I'd be able to confirm the stats from those links. Theother option is I use the BT books to build them again, trying to keep close to the stats above. Sarna.net is a nice site, but solaris7 gives the specific stats.

Compare the Savannah Master from Sarna.net, and from Solaris7.com.
So the answer is no, you don't have a Canon link for either. But, you're saying that Solaris is using Canon sources to supply their information. If you have any of the books then you could pick something out of there and just post it. I'll read up a bit on Solaris. If it all fits then I'll be okay with people using Stated Canon items from there.
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Okay, I was going through Solaris7 and they have both canon and noncanon data mixed with no markers between. So, unless I have something to compare to. I'm not going to count Solaris7 as a canon source.
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