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There has been constant chatter about Idris Elba being the next Bond. I am for this just because I feel James Bond is a code name and not a the actual name. Different people have used that alias over the decades.

However, what if Daniel Craig is James Bond 007 but Idris is 009 and they do a spin off of a couple of movies from that?

Let's admit the guy has all the makings of a Bond. Hell he was always my favorite for a Trek Abramsverse Sisko. Thd guy would be even better than Brooks in that role. He would definitely intimidate Worf lol.

EDIT: But I digress, he has all the makings to rival Bond himself even if he can't be Bond himself.

I am thinking do a Bond movie and then he gets his own movie as 009 or something.
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The idea of Bond being a code name was a common one. But it has issues; Roger Moore's Bond was seen putting flowers on the grave of the woman Lazenby's Bond married

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He was also described in The Spy Who Loved Me as "married once... wife killed." Which seems like kind of a coincidence.

And then, we discovered in Skyfall that Craig's Bond's parents were called Bond

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But then it's also pretty obvious that the Bonds are not meant to be playing the same guy, because he'd be like 90 years old by now.

So essentially every actor is a reboot, but some holding over some of, but not all of, the events of the previous Bond actor.

I don't really see why Idris or anybody couldn't just be 007, James Bond. There's no continuity of actors there to worry about.
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Indeed... I think if we can countenance the change from Sellers to Connery to Lazenby to Moore to Dalton to Brosnan to Craig and be willing to accept that they are all JB, a change in skin tone is hardly a deal-breaker.
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Mikey wrote:Indeed... I think if we can countenance the change from Sellers to Connery to Lazenby to Moore to Dalton to Brosnan to Craig and be willing to accept that they are all JB, a change in skin tone is hardly a deal-breaker.
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I think it's a great idea. It might even get me to see a Bond movie. ;)
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Sonic Glitch wrote:
Mikey wrote:Indeed... I think if we can countenance the change from Sellers to Connery to Lazenby to Moore to Dalton to Brosnan to Craig and be willing to accept that they are all JB, a change in skin tone is hardly a deal-breaker.
But you change the Enterprise and then...

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Fallacious analogy. I don’t think there have been any changes (within the same universe) to the Ent that weren’t explained IU.
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Mikey wrote:
Sonic Glitch wrote:
Mikey wrote:Indeed... I think if we can countenance the change from Sellers to Connery to Lazenby to Moore to Dalton to Brosnan to Craig and be willing to accept that they are all JB, a change in skin tone is hardly a deal-breaker.
But you change the Enterprise and then...

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Fallacious analogy. I don’t think there have been any changes (within the same universe) to the Ent that weren’t explained IU.
Yeah, unlike the Bond franchise Star Trek was one in which every single show (sans TAS) and movie was supposed to be set within a single unbroken continuity. We really are meant to think that it all fits together and works - and one of the best things about it, IMO, was how astonishingly well it did, considering.

Which is why Discovery makes me so sad and angry. Because that's no longer true any more.

Anyway, as for Idris Elba. I like him, but I don't know that he would make a good Bond. He comes across as tough and intimidating and physically powerful, which Bond is, but I don't know that I've ever seen anything to indicate that he can do suave and sophisticated. Bond is supposed to be able to fit in at a high society function as easily as he can beat up a goon. I don't know that I'd buy him trying to do that.
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I feel Idris Elba is too old. He's 45 now. Could be 50 by the time the movie releases. How about Cockney legend, Danny Dyer?
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This stems from basically some people not wanting a black man to be Bond. Whether it's racism or just pretending that all of the Bond movies were of the same man.
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Nutso wrote:I feel Idris Elba is too old. He's 45 now. Could be 50 by the time the movie releases. How about Cockney legend, Danny Dyer?
Bond is not a cockney. He's not exactly posh either but he does move in those circles and can fit in. Danny Dyer, not so much.
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It's funny, but if you read up on the Bond movies you find every single actor was worried that they were too old. Even when they'd only done one or two movies. Connery didn't want to do a second film because he thought he was getting too old. Moore was always saying that he was too old behind the scenes - and finally quit when he was horrified to find himself doing a love scene with a Bond girl whose father was younger than he was. And now Craig has repeatedly said he thinks he's too old to do it (he's fifty).
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So how old should Bond be? I mean definitely young enough so the stunts seem plausible, but that metric increases with time and medical advances.
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Bond should at the very least be in his mid to late 30's. This would give him the time to develop his skills to the point where we see him in the movies. It's also fairly young enough for him to do high risk missions. There is a reason why the military and pro sports do not have many fully active on the field people after a certain age like 38. You cna be fully healthy but by that point a minor injury or sprain takes forever to get over.
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Director Danny Boyle Exits Next James Bond Film
Danny Boyle will no longer be leading 007 on his next mission. The producers of the James Bond franchise and star Daniel Craig made the announcement Tuesday that Boyle was exiting the project, which he had been set to direct.

"Michael G. Wilson, Barbara Broccoli and Daniel Craig today announced that due to creative differences Danny Boyle has decided to no longer direct Bond 25," the official James Bond Twitter account tweeted.
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McAvoy wrote:Bond should at the very least be in his mid to late 30's. This would give him the time to develop his skills to the point where we see him in the movies. It's also fairly young enough for him to do high risk missions. There is a reason why the military and pro sports do not have many fully active on the field people after a certain age like 38. You cna be fully healthy but by that point a minor injury or sprain takes forever to get over.
Craig was 38 when he starred in Casino Royale, and he was pretty darn buff when he came up out of the water in his swimming scene. But yeah, he's 50 now, and healthy for 50, but age does take its toll on a body. I thought they could've used Jason Statham as Bond, but even though he's fit as a fiddle, and he can be suave and debonair, he's bald and getting old now. Same with Mark Strong. And Henry Cavill is now Superman. Charlie Hunnam though...
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