SFDebris: Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen

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I dont mind Signs, was a enjoyable movie/
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There's actually an undercurrent to several Shymalan movies of... he's not quite "anti science", but he's quite dismissive of science. That's the really weird thing about Signs and The Happening. They're a science fiction movies made by a man who doesn't seem to understand what science is and what makes it different - he seems to think that science is just one way of thinking about the world, no better or different to any other, and no more likely to be right than any other.
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Graham Kennedy wrote:There's actually an undercurrent to several Shymalan movies of... he's not quite "anti science", but he's quite dismissive of science. That's the really weird thing about Signs and The Happening. They're a science fiction movies made by a man who doesn't seem to understand what science is and what makes it different - he seems to think that science is just one way of thinking about the world, no better or different to any other, and no more likely to be right than any other.
No wonder it seemed so wonky to me.
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I found a quote from the Happening. Bear in mind, this is a science teacher talking...

"Science will come up with some reason to put in the books, but in the end it'll be just a theory. I mean, we will fail to acknowledge that there are forces at work beyond our understanding."

Yeah. That's what science does, alright. Just think up any old theory, put it in the books, and call it a done deal.
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RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:
McAvoy wrote:
Better than Signs IMO.
Never seen that one. Never will see that one.
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Graham Kennedy wrote:I found a quote from the Happening. Bear in mind, this is a science teacher talking...

"Science will come up with some reason to put in the books, but in the end it'll be just a theory. I mean, we will fail to acknowledge that there are forces at work beyond our understanding."

Yeah. That's what science does, alright. Just think up any old theory, put it in the books, and call it a done deal.
Sounds like a Creationism classroom.
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Perhaps "anti-scientist" rather than "anti-science"?
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Graham Kennedy wrote:I found a quote from the Happening. Bear in mind, this is a science teacher talking...

"Science will come up with some reason to put in the books, but in the end it'll be just a theory. I mean, we will fail to acknowledge that there are forces at work beyond our understanding."

Yeah. That's what science does, alright. Just think up any old theory, put it in the books, and call it a done deal.
To be fair, some "scientists" do think that way. Like the ones who had "proof" that Vaccines are harmful.
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stitch626 wrote:To be fair, some "scientists" do think that way. Like the ones who had "proof" that Vaccines are harmful.
That wasn't a scientist it was a liar. He's since admitted that he lied about the whole thing.
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IanKennedy wrote:
stitch626 wrote:To be fair, some "scientists" do think that way. Like the ones who had "proof" that Vaccines are harmful.
That wasn't a scientist it was a liar. He's since admitted that he lied about the whole thing.
This man needs to get punched multiple times, then. :madashell:
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His name is Andrew Wakefield. He wrote that article in 1998. His shit was debunked but not before an anti-vaccination movement was formed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MMR_vaccine_controversy
Investigations by Sunday Times journalist Brian Deer revealed that Wakefield had multiple undeclared conflicts of interest,[2][3] had manipulated evidence,[4] and had broken other ethical codes.
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Nutso wrote:His name is Andrew Wakefield. He wrote that article in 1998. His shit was debunked but not before an anti-vaccination movement was formed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MMR_vaccine_controversy
Investigations by Sunday Times journalist Brian Deer revealed that Wakefield had multiple undeclared conflicts of interest,[2][3] had manipulated evidence,[4] and had broken other ethical codes.
He is a son of a bitch.
Punched with brass knuckles, then?
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Responsible for many deaths.

I am thinking spiked brass knuckles.
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McAvoy wrote:Responsible for many deaths.

I am thinking spiked brass knuckles.
Sounds good to me!

As for Age of Extinction... 165 minutes long. The Dinobots show up only in the last TWENTY!

I am buying maybe four toys from the line and that's about it.
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